General Conference was amazing! What a weekend. Even aside from some incredible changes for youth as well as some amazing new temple announcements (that matched up gorgeously with our predictions), there were so many fantastic talks this weekend that we hardly have time for it all.

So join Geoff Openshaw, Kurt Francom, Jared Gillins, and the TWiM Sisters as they break down their favorite conference talks as well as the incredible news.

Plus, we get to wonder what the heck is going to happen with conference in April?????

Plus, if you missed our Tie Tracker™, well, don’t miss the Tie Tracker™!

Transcript

Geoff:
[0:00] Everybody thanks so much for tuning in once again to this weekend warm it’s been a busy week of podcasts on Twin we’re going to turn out like,
technically speaking 3 episodes within a 7-Day time span and Kurt I am very sorry for your suffering,
responsible for two-thirds of those episodes but we’re very glad everybody’s here.Kurt:
[0:20] Whatever you need from me.

Geoff:
[0:23] Well you’re very nice you’re too nice to nice I’m going to say that
open mics it’s other post-conference rap episode where very excited to have a panel here this week already talking about this week is what we just had in general conference
all the cool things that went down and honestly will baby do five minutes of recapping talks and then spend a good hour a speculating on what the heck is going to happen in April 2020,
for General Conference cuz that’s really all anybody’s going to care about I kid I kid,
very happy to be here let me introduce our panel you have me of course Jeff up and show your founder and host of twin also joining me as I mentioned there was Kirk Franklin of leading Saints.

Kurt:
[1:02] What what hey Jeff have you been.

Geoff:
[1:05] What what also.

Kurt:
[1:06] I’ve got a list of speculations I’m ready to share.

Geoff:
[1:09] I’m sure you do I’m so cat good.

Sisters:
[1:15] Hi hello.

Geoff:
[1:19] How is Idaho.

Sisters:
[1:20] It’s good we made it through conference weekend with all kinds of children I spent 1/2 of conference weekend in Logan with my college daughter I drove home last night.

Geoff:
[1:32] That sounds terrific.

Sisters:
[1:34] It was fun.

Geoff:
[1:35] I’ve barely been to look into my life anyway.

Kurt:
[1:37] I love you I love you or just your your post-conference dad voice it’s I’m I’m right there with you man.

Geoff:
[1:44] This wonderful that’s great dear that’s wonderful and Ginger Gilligan’s.

Jared:
[1:49] Hello I’m back can’t keep me away.

Geoff:
[1:53] Nor would I ever want to you can knock on my door anytime you want for anything at all because most of because you are physically the person.

Jared:
[2:01] Astronaut have to drive for like 45 minutes but I could go.

Geoff:
[2:04] I don’t live 45 minutes away this drives me crazy I work down in downtown DC and my colleagues I’ll describe where I live at quot so far and I do not live I don’t live in.

Jared:
[2:14] In my experience driving South on 95 everything’s at least 45 minutes away.

Geoff:
[2:19] It can be bad with traffic but in the mornings it’s 20 minutes in the HOV lane it’s fine it’s no big deal anyway.

Jared:
[2:24] Well I’ll see you tomorrow morning in about 20 minutes.

Geoff:
[2:29] Goodwill South Bend you’ll be fine there’s no traffic going Southbound anyway everybody conference was great I thoroughly enjoyed myself II some parts of it I missed because of who no adulting and what have you but I got a big kick out of it we’re all your,
basic takeaways book.

Sisters:
[2:47] I was blown away I just thought wow it just with all of the changes and the pre-conference stuff I just thought I thought this conference was all about the women
me to we have a lot to say when it comes to the women’s session I think oh yes we do where is Grace.

Geoff:
[3:05] I will do my I will do my best not to mansplain anything.

Sisters:
[3:09] We would appreciate that we don’t want to have to slap you Jeff.

Geoff:
[3:14] Please don’t please don’t hey bro. I thought there was a good theme of,
couple things really really jumped out of course there was a lot of Christ about coming unto Christ but there was a lot of talk about really like re-centering ourselves it seem to know just setting aside a lot of the vain things of the world and.

Sisters:
[3:35] I bet lots of chopped I thought there was lots of talk about Joy.

Geoff:
[3:40] Oh yeah that happened.

Kurt:
[3:42] A personal revelation theme was in several top.

Jared:
[3:48] I also think there was a lot of the mention of the two great Commandments which I thought was good.

Geoff:
[3:53] That was an in different ways to I think we’ll get that I think we’ll get to that I think a lot of people were happy about a lot of mention of number to but Elder Oaks Lane quite a bit at first at least on number one.

Jared:
[4:03] Which I don’t think is a dichotomy but yeah we can talk.

Geoff:
[4:06] No but but naturally the interwebs of course the very interwebs that have bordick ride by many speakers this, thought there was a greater prevalence of toxic as went out of their way to just mentioned the ills of social media,
something we should be concerned about but I definitely noticed more of that this time around as well.

Jared:
[4:25] Another thing I noticed was a lot of inspirational stories Coming Out of Africa like we had at least two speakers specifically talk about the DRC or is that year there was some stuff from West African inspirational,
down something like that a lot of African stories and I and I like that.

Geoff:
[4:45] I noticed the same thing too I halfway thought maybe they were going to embrace a cool new format,
white while Elder renlund was talking all about the stories about the DRC that he’s going to sick and president Nelson Has authorized me to tell you that we’re also going to be building a temple and Lubin Bashi and it would it would be this whole new format for temple announcements,
we’re random speakers just throw one out at a time and that really would force us to stay engaged cuz you never know.

Sisters:
[5:09] That would be fun.

Geoff:
[5:10] Territory man,
someone just talking and by the by Papua New Guinea everybody I needed this and I think I’ve been looking and looking inward in a bad way too much lately and I appreciated the reminder to,
focus on the Lord be obedient and you will be happy I think it’s very simple,
so if you want to dive in Elder Holland can I give a mic drop talk I thought.

Sisters:
[5:39] Yes.

Geoff:
[5:41] Especially the very end is like welcome to conference.

Sisters:
[5:44] I love that and my husband was commenting he’s exactly what you said he said I don’t know about that it felt kind of like a bike drop and I said well if anybody can mic drop its Elder Holland so that’s what I.

Kurt:
[5:57] Truly is he truly is the greatest show man let’s be honest he just knows how to work that room work.

Geoff:
[6:03] I don’t know I think I think president Nelson must have actually not been a surgeon in study marketing.

Kurt:
[6:08] Oh yeah absolutely his PR skills are off the charts.

Sisters:
[6:11] Either that or he’s got some really good PR people who are like hey here’s what you need to do.

Geoff:
[6:19] I don’t think you be the case as well or maybe other Holland was preemptively compensating for the fact that Kanye West we would be performing your blocks away in between sessions and he wanted to.

Sisters:
[6:30] I got to keep up.

Geoff:
[6:33] Did everyone hear about that I don’t hear about this no news okay,
yeah so Kanye West apparently what was his purpose was it to Demag up the crowd at the Gateway Center I don’t know what he was doing there but either way he performed at the Gateway what’s the most exciting thing to happen to the Gateway planetarium open.

Sisters:
[6:54] Well in the other things that I noticed about Elder Holland’s talk it again this was part of his you know mic drop was he kept saying
I bear Apostolic witness it on we heard him say that several conferences ago when he was talking about the Book of Mormon but
it seems like you only threw it in once or twice he had it all over the map in this talk about his Apostolic Witness.
But when he says it it’s
there’s a very powerful there’s something about it that makes you go oh I need to pause and and really listen to what he say especially you don’t like
I mean everybody has different Apostles that they like I really like Elder Holland and so.

Geoff:
[7:38] Do you are out there.

Sisters:
[7:40] I tend to really listen I mean I perk up when he speaks and I really take his counsel quite seriously.

Geoff:
[7:49] YouTube this is my fear that like leading off of other holidays like folks the only way to keep us paying attention all the way until Sunday afternoon it’s a not bring in Elder Holland until the back hour of the last session.

Jared:
[8:02] That’s why they had Elder uchtdorf speak so late.

Geoff:
[8:05] They did they did yeah.

Sisters:
[8:07] Welfare Elder Holland to be.

Geoff:
[8:14] I’ve noticed actually we’re jumping all the way at the end but I feel like has an elder Anderson kind of batted clean up quite frequently I feel like he’s the last speaker more than one would expect if you were to look at a lot of conferences.

Jared:
[8:26] I think you’re right.

Sisters:
[8:28] Oh I never noticed that but yeah.

Geoff:
[8:31] Which is at stake and I’ve also notice of course with the announcements in the changes that we had I guess Elder cook is somehow he’s like President Nelson’s fixer I guess.

Sisters:
[8:40] Is appointed by God he gets to be the explainer of all.

Kurt:
[8:44] Yeah I feel bad bad for the guy just seen sitting there like man I have this fantastic talk about Isaiah and how it parallels with it you know other scripture and I just can’t wait to give that but oh I got to just explain this program I guess okay I’ll say.

Geoff:
[8:57] Long time long time listings of twin know that I’m a fan of Elder Cooks written talks but not his delivered talks as much as I find him not to be most engaging speaker so for some of us this is a huge blessing cuz he just gets up there and and does,
that sort of thing and I’m like awesome good use of this lot I’m I’m okay with it,
just got a crack me up.

Sisters:
[9:19] I was going to say you know what he was he was just moving through all of the changes so quickly that I mean I was struggling just to keep up with my notes going
what did he say what did he say what does it mean so yeah he he threw down a lot in a very short amount of time.

Geoff:
[9:36] And I and I don’t think you were alone in that.

Kurt:
[9:38] Yeah there’s a lot of memes that kind of reference the fact that I thought I was following until Elder cook started stock and then add those diagrams and you know infographics that we’re getting big and smaller and then wait a minute so what.

Jared:
[9:51] But my impression was that he was given a slide deck you know and the same like here here’s our graphics and any other I’ve been in meetings like that I got a buck up we got a lot of slides to get through here so I know.

Geoff:
[10:04] Well let’s make sense of that Kurt as the leadership expert.

Kurt:
[10:07] Oh yes I’m sure.

Geoff:
[10:09] Sure have you had time to digest what changed,
in that session I think the young women changes were a lot more straightforward I followed that pretty well but the priesthood stuff seemed a bit more murky so free what he missed it,
are you able to sell are you almost done right this and separate the wheat from the.

Kurt:
[10:29] I’ll see if I can summarize it we were talking about I was talking to my brother about this at dinner and and technically speaking not a lot changed because the bishopric was always even that you know even scripturally that speaking is always
truth seen as over the young the young men of the youth right so I think they’ve just structured it differently to hopefully get rid of some,
some cultural aspects that made us forget the fact that the bishopric is in charge of these things and so assertive demoting the the emphasis on Young Men’s prison season,
cat started moving them to a level of of advisers or what are the officers what terms are we using now.

Geoff:
[11:11] I don’t even know that’s what I mean.

Kurt:
[11:13] And so now there’s also know that I was literally sustained in my ward as the young men secretary last Sunday so,
now I am most likely going to be in a an advisor or a specialist I believe the terms are and.

Geoff:
[11:27] Are you doing anything differently.

Kurt:
[11:29] I’m not a silly but inch thing is is that the youngest present will probably be you notes,
downgraded to that level where it where we will see each other more is equals looking towards the bishop rather than,
as a second guide look for the young’uns present itself,
simplifying that the young men’s program that it’s going to be the the bishopric Focus worth
Bishop is focused on the priests the 1st counselors focus on the teachers in the same counselors focus on the deacons and from there they do their best to run weekly activities which it will be interesting to see the bishopric more involved in nose
weekly activities or as often as is as
necessary for your area and then with the rest of us are sort of the minions of the young men’s program running around to help out where we can,
I think it’s a good change that emphasized on the decor doctor in the course structure that was originally I put in place.

Geoff:
[12:27] Okay I think we’ll see how it plays out what it was I at least take from it is to assume to give the,
the young the actual corn presidents more I mean they have the authority but actually give them more responsibility to interface directly with the bishopric and.

Kurt:
[12:42] Yeah I’d like I remember every valve chirping in those lessons where we sort of make a nod towards the deacons Quorum present like you’re one of the few people with priesthood keys in the teachers Quorum present you to you know but we that doesn’t really mean much the way we were running exhibit at the end of the day the young men’s presidency was running it
even though they didn’t have keys but now those
does parentheses or those presidents of the deacons and teachers Quorum will turn towards that will be meeting and I think that those keys are more at the size as they should be.

Geoff:
[13:13] Dagger that I never even thought about having keys at the Cubs I think I was a teacher’s Quorum president I remember not being deacons Quorum president and feeling like,
glossed over oh yeah but,
yeah but I don’t you know I maybe those bad instruction or maybe I wasn’t doing a good enough job actually like learning about the church I don’t know but,
that’s why I think this could be very good for them hopefully as my Bishop I’m the executive secretary and so are used to schedule a lot of interviews like during Mutual time he’d be at the church,
and then a handful of.

Sisters:
[13:45] Geoff it’s no longer Mutual.

Geoff:
[13:49] Well I’m speaking in the past Tiffany so it’s fine,
buddy Reed, let’s go said hey I want to clear this out and only do interviews like afterwards I want to I feel like I need to spend more time with the youth and so this whole time these nuts for coming out I like the company tell you something or you just
preemptively inspired cuz I thought was so interesting that he’s been going way out of his way to focus,
a ton of his energy on just the youth and try to offload more stuff and then here we are you know what this exact same this will the church’s institutionalizing.

Kurt:
[14:24] Did you call mention one thing that you know there’s obviously after Elder,
cooking Sundays other changes there’s a lot of thina what about this and that these details that hopefully you know obviously letters and FAQ will come down down the,
Trail here soon but just the fact that they’re now the general Sunday school presidencies and the general Young Men’s prison sees that they will be officers now in it one thing that they really didn’t speak to is will there still be
a presidency or you know with a first and second counselor in the general Sunday school presidency you and then that young man’s fancy or will it more be like you know that the young men’s board or more be just these
these officers that maybe there isn’t a a young men’s president or maybe there is but he does have counselors you just has additional,
helpers whatever we call him right so that’s something that will learn more about.

Jared:
[15:16] Sorry I said that mean when they say that the Sunday School president the oldest take level and the and also gave the men’s present would be members of that Council right so,
yes I had you pull counselors to this presentation I cancel it do they call it a counselors are like you said do they just not have.

Geoff:
[15:33] Yeah I missed that whole part when this chit this Council related stuff.

Kurt:
[15:38] Yeah I think there’s some somewhere and said that on the High Council to be in a one of the High Council,
counselors will be at the youngest president and then whoever’s over like the young women will be the first counselor and I don’t know so I think there will still be counselors there but yeah it seemed a little,
they just sort of blew past that those details.

Geoff:
[15:59] Yeah they really did I was.

Sisters:
[16:00] What is the make a pool a couple of those up because I think what they were doing is they were creating a steak level committee and on that steak level committee you would have the high counselor who is now effectively in charge of the young men
at is the Young Band General officer for the steak I guess and then the high counselor in charge of the young women and I think they were still going to have,
a stake young women’s I don’t know if it’s presidency or just like a general officer but they had,
Dai I remember them talking about that and it was it was it was,
somewhat confusing because I couldn’t tell when they said we’re no longer to have auxiliary’s we’re now going to have organizations if
that was just on the steak level or if that was on the word level and it was there was a lot of confusion for me surrounding that.

[16:55] I just kept thinking about how,
staying busy our Bishop is going to be and our whole bishopric I mean I know that they’ve been building up to this because for a while they’ve been tried to put more,
on the Relief Society presidency and the elders Quorum presidency but I just thought oh my goodness now they’re going to have to also run not run young men’s,
because ideally the young men will be running it but going to those activities every week and I immediately thought who’s going to plan the activities I mean ideally the boys are very at all cuz that’s what,
the goal has been all along but there still are going to have to be to have to have lead to adult adult supervision,
it’s just interesting are all of the the bishopric members in the bishop going to be there for the you know presidency meetings for each Corum probably.

[17:54] Be there for the priests and the first counselor would rather when there’s a presidency meeting for the teachers and helped guide and direct the teachers and the second counselor would be there for a presidency meeting right track but I mean just,
that’s just a lot added to their place and maybe this is,
because that is so much added to their plates maybe this is the push for the elders Quorum in the release it to really take over more,
then take on more responsibility than they have I know we’ve had that push for a while but maybe this will be what really pushes it.

[18:29] And will help that to happen in the words I don’t know.

Geoff:
[18:32] Something else I’m curious about that,
it seems like we’re reducing the number of available callings in general so like what’s ever,
this is like the Andrew Yang approach like what are we all going to do you know it was him it’s automation but it’s okay just reduce the number of available jobs for a war.

Kurt:
[18:52] Robots Jeff we got robots.

Geoff:
[18:54] I don’t think the world’s going to pay us $1,000 a month for for no reason so I’m just curious like what I mean I’ve been in a singles ward Reno Collins or just fabricated out of thin air just.

Sisters:
[19:04] Right now.

Geoff:
[19:05] What to do but I am very curious in this era where it seems that President Nelson wants us to of course,
cleansing her vessel look inward be more Family Center Let the church be more supportive rather than driving everything that’s all well and good but then I just wonder,
are we going to people who just don’t have callings.

Jared:
[19:23] Everyone’s just going to rotate through the nursery.

Sisters:
[19:27] I don’t think that’s going to be the case your
here’s what I think is going to happen I think rather than have like in my ward of course they have a young men’s presidency and I laughed because my husband is just been called to the first counselor and a couple years ago they called him to be the scoutmaster and right after that day,
or announce they were getting rid of scouting and I said off you no longer have a calling and now he’s young and young man’s and I said you no longer have a colleague
I think what they’ll do is they will have advisors because that’s what we have in our Ward right now and I so I think in addition to having you know the bishop and his counselors they’ll call you know,
X number of people to be a priest advisor X number of people to be a teacher
advisor a Deacon’s advisor and similarly young women’s advisors so that you have more adult leadership there and it just doesn’t fall all on the counselor and you have other people there who could help guide and direct the kids.

Jared:
[20:24] That makes sense to me but I think I am
that that would very like the number of people who might be seen as needed as advisers is going to very poor Ward like in our board we we just don’t have enough young women so before you had to have you know that the handbook to find the presidency is,
present to counselors in a secretary said there was four callings but with the young men we have in our Ward they might just say we really only need two advisors you know so still you’ve eliminated half the amend callings.

Sisters:
[20:53] Right and maybe that frees up I mean I dealing more time for people to be doing come follow me and their families or going out and doing mini service in the community and Ministry maybe that maybe that’s the vision is that,
well hopefully people will replace this with some self-driven type of work in the home.

Kurt:
[21:16] Geoff I think this goes back to a lot when we were talking about in the
last week’s episode that this this shift and dynamic really changes the community aspect of award that,
but you know even look at the the ward council Dynamic has changed significantly I think now. There’s not going to be a young men’s presidency you know in there because the bishopric is there and then I believe the correct me for my glute the Sunday School president,
obviously is I don’t know maybe maybe that they’re still there but but nonetheless just these
just a shift like you said if we are focusing more on come follow me and in-home things efforts there or ministering which is a very proactive effort it just changes these sometimes you know he’s calling he’s felt forced or no supposed to be there out of Duty but out of that,
relationships in connection.

Geoff:
[22:10] Exactly I don’t know we actually it was interesting you mention that honor episode last week a lot of people commented on our discussion with that just said no it’s is open great,
Home Center Church two hours been awesome but usually the reasons were things like I have kids difficult blah blah blah there was a lot of people who commented on the lack of socialization,
interesting feedback I don’t know.

Sisters:
[22:34] Well I pulled up some more details on some of the changes that Elder cook announced that we were all a little murky about one of the things that says is a congregation’s bishopric youth committee meeting will be replaced by Ward youth Council,
so it sounds like maybe the bishop will be having two councils now regular ward council and then Ward youth Council
which you know if it’s run somewhat like ward council could be very interesting to have the the presidencies
of the various priesthood quorums and perhaps as well as the young women and they’re talking about some of the issues related to the use in the ward like,
when what we do in ward council then of course it said Mutual will be retired it’s now young women activities erotic priest and activities or youth activities if you’re doing a combined activity,
the hair was one of my favorite what the word budget for youth activities will be equally divided between the boys and the girl
Delmar scouting to pay for Halle freakin lujah.

Jared:
[23:41] Actively announced with the scouting thing of it is formalized it with that in.

Geoff:
[23:45] Yeah of course in everyone’s defense the Relief Society has long had an astronomically larger budget in the elders.

Kurt:
[23:52] Amen.

Sisters:
[23:53] That’s because the new Society actually plans and executes activities.

Geoff:
[23:58] It’s true that when I was never scorned president and unfortunately Jared was in my corner the time he probably a test of my poor leadership but,
we look to doing activities and I was like okay and I got to the budget for the first time with her are you kidding me the bunch of the elders Quorum was like $100 a year if that I think it was even less it was hilarious
and that is why Jared we had no fun when I was almost warm.

Jared:
[24:22] It is but it was like one of them was we went over to someone’s house to watch like March Madness,
and like somebody people it was kind of a potluck thing so yeah there’s no budget money in there and then the other thing I remember I think this actually went to like in early March like early on in
playoffs type before March Madness February fracas I guess game and again it was pay for yourself so.

Geoff:
[24:50] Make your own wife this is a complete digression but you don’t know if you remember at that March Madness party when one person who was there just brought they got up and walked out and just said like that is left like the middle of a conversation I did say goodbye to anybody and we were all super confused.

Jared:
[25:05] Yeah I do remember that.

Geoff:
[25:06] That was very awkward I had to do a lot of strange follow-up and the individual just said I just feel like there’s nothing for me to talk about that conversation so I went home I was like okay.

Sisters:
[25:16] Alright would last clarification on Elder cut it says at all levels Ward stake and general the church will use the term organization rather than auxiliary those who did
General Relief Society young women,
young man Primary in Sunday school organizations will be known as general officers those who lead organizations at the ward and stake level will be normal be known as Ward officers or stick officers so does.

Geoff:
[25:46] Makes sense.

Sisters:
[25:46] Does that mean then that we don’t longer have a Relief Society President we have a Relief Society Ward officer
no I don’t think so has it doesn’t say they’re taking out president’s just the term auxiliary.

Jared:
[26:01] Yeah,
yeah I think the idea was the calling Remains the Same but when we refer to them at collectively are in the abstract that we’re not using it to me and I don’t know if this is really the driver by the Bell has always to me connoted sort of a secondary or,
less necessary type of title and so when you anymore because they are essential they are essential part of how the church functions they are officers so you know I bets to me the meaning of the change.

Geoff:
[26:30] So Billy on the changes we’ve talked about the the mail setup we might as well just to hash out the the female side of his well what happened to young women I mean I don’t think we’re on the subject so,
the sister is care so we will let I will not mansplain and they can tell you everything that happened.

Sisters:
[26:46] Okay first of all
back to president Nelson and his PR strategy I want to sing I thought this was a brilliant that he said okay we’re going to have Elder cook tell you what’s at what’s happening now and then tonight at the women’s meeting
I think it was wasn’t it Bonnie the bunny.

Geoff:
[27:06] Funniest Gordon.

Sisters:
[27:07] Gordon Gordon.

Geoff:
[27:09] She’s the young women’s General president.

Sisters:
[27:11] Yes she’s going to explain what happens with the young women and so first of all I thought a couple of different things I thought okay
will fish oil this is cool that the young women changes are being announced by
a woman I like that second he ensured that all the women would tune in for the women’s broadcast and third he ensured that most
leadership would turn in for the women’s broadcast TuneIn for the women’s broadcast because
I can have it checked in with my Bishop but I’m guessing he was watching the women’s broadcast cuz he needed to know what was going to happen since he’s in charge of the young women in the war and so I think it really up to the numbers I thought it was a.

[27:50] Birds or so anyway we we get to Sister corden’s talk and let me find my notes Here on then she starts out with this was probably one of my favorites updates the young women’s theme,
she immediately says you know we’re revising the young women’s theme which I hadn’t even thought about but of course they have to do as they’re taking away personal progress which is the young women values which were the main chunk of the,
the old steam so when she said that I was like oh yeah of course we need to do is meme I love the new theme I love you so much it was,
I mean the old thing was fine but this one is perfect for the new for the new purposes I loved there were a couple things I loved,
she they mentioned Heavenly parents in there instead
you know the old team said we’re Daughters of our heavenly father who loves us and we love him and the new theme mentioned we’re Daughters of our Heavenly parents I don’t know the exact wording.

Geoff:
[28:51] With a it says I’m I’m a beloved daughter of heavenly parents with the divine nature and eternal destiny.

Sisters:
[28:57] Right I love that I thought was very powerful and then one other thing I really loved in the theme
part of it said that we will cherish repentance and I thought that was such a cool way to talk about repentance and to get into our
kids heads that repentance should be cherished and celebrated and not a scary bad,
which is how I saw growing up so I thought that was really cool wording on that
I like that wording too because I think that you know sometimes there’s a lot of Shame associated with repentance and I think this removes the shame from repentance and
allows the girls to think about when they have made a mistake the value of repentance and that they can repent and that there’s not shame associated with it
yeah it was great I loved the new theme so much k then.

Kurt:
[29:50] Speaking I just want to interject on that at repentance. Is even I have the same feeling when they announced on the new Temple recommend questions I think we’ll get to buy,
there was a as far as talking about in your are in your repentance you like they they sort of give as this is a given which were all involved in repenting right is almost,
just had a different tone and Cadence to it which I love.

Geoff:
[30:12] Yeah Elder Ballard or present Ballard even, I like this talk kind of talk about how we just repentance repentance all the time but I I was another good reminder of that to just I’m always kneeling down saying I’m sorry please try to be better and I think I’m good enough.

Sisters:
[30:27] Yeah it’s good will end
then of course the other thing that she talked about was that I thought was really big too and I think going to make a big difference and in some words I think this is probably already happening if your numbers are small,
they’re getting rid of bee hives by a maids and Laurels there are no.

Geoff:
[30:46] No

Sisters:
[30:47] Distinction it is all just one group of young women
and the wards have the option to divide those groups out how they see fit you know if it’s a very small Ward and they want to keep all the girls together they can keep all the girls together if there’s a larger board they could / age they could even / was discussing this with my husband because we have a
I think we have somewhere between 30 and 40 girls in my ward that you could even divide them into
two groups of both older girls and younger girls so you had older girls mentoring the younger girls that would be cool,
yeah I love the flexibility that it gives to the wards.

Kurt:
[31:29] Yeah this is one thing I wanted to highlight that just eat the autonomy that the general counsel’s are handing to the local Wards I think is
is crucial at Bennett same time we sort of live and die by the sottana me because we in that you know the ministering program
but you know this day it’s actually gave us a time you like ministering is just you know reaching out to The One and serving them and love them and now I really like what yeah but what does that what do I do like what when can I check the box you know
and sometimes it then that those types of programs finder but it’s definitely the the way to go with with this International Church is the more autonomy we can create,
the better and obviously it’s hard with young men’s program when keys are involved and corns and things it’s hard to be that time that I’d love the fact that they’re just like it’s up to you anyway you feel inspired to go running.

Geoff:
[32:18] And what I think is so exciting about that is because in some ways the whole come follow me at 4 with a broader I would almost describe everything we’ve been doing over the past
18 odd months as we come follow me efforts covering the whole church and,
come follow me in and of itself is almost as many ways kind of a correlation 2.0 it sort of thing right or we are aligning all the curricular on this one thing but then at the same time like you just mentioned the autonomy Kurt
and while we are trying to unify the teaching even more the structure and the apparatus around it,
is much more nebulous and it has been in the past for think is very very interesting I mean there’s a lot of people who still take issue with the correlation effort from the 60s for example,
I think this is this is so difference is really just saying let’s focus on key areas and sure we’re all studying the same thing at the same time and it’s great that’s awesome it’s wonderful but we can decide how we want to,
organize our class and how we want to go now we want to structure everything and that’s very good.

Kurt:
[33:17] Nothing will be some some definite Growing Pains I just like there is with ministering right now I think it was sort of settled in ministering and and maybe not a good spot but over time I think it’ll will figure more out work at more do I culture in and I think it’ll be better overall.

Geoff:
[33:32] And one other thing that the there they’re saying the other one should focus on and I believe this is all so new Ishq correct me if I’m wrong and it’s also a line to the other organizations not auxiliary is in the ward,
they’re focusing on ministering missionary work activation Temple and family history work,
and that has been a special day newer Focus for those four things Relief Society for elders Quorum for all the different groups and now they’re even bring it down to the youth so that not only are we sort of correlating our curricula we are also,
correlating the fourfold efforts that we could have died almost go as far as wondering if this is sort of replacing the famous for fold mission of the church,
it’s not exactly the same by any means when you can see a lot of the overlap they’re the only thing that doesn’t have is helping the poor for example there’s no world in there of course.

Jared:
[34:23] So we don’t need it anymore call.

Geoff:
[34:25] I guess not I mean missionary working activate so you used to have one that applied to missionary work when I was split that out to missionary work and activation of their own thing so sorry,
sorry less-fortunate people.

Sisters:
[34:37] Just go beat the talk on fasting and contributing to fast offerings.

Geoff:
[34:43] One for president Nelson.

Sisters:
[34:45] Yes.

Geoff:
[34:46] I really expected it was a great talk overall I just thought I expected more I thought he was tearing it up to say this is all been well and good,
I need to tell you brothers and sisters we need to do more like the the fast offering coffers are not where they should be but we’ve got to step up our game and said it was only.

Kurt:
[35:06] I feel like he’s,
he’s conditioned us to like the next announcement is like we’re we’re actually going to do do fast offerings differently or we’re going to do this you’re just sort of there waiting but,
oh yeah that was just a great talk I’m on our our welfare at effort you know us.

Geoff:
[35:23] I guess I thought would be even if not like a new program or anything I just thought would be admonished a little bit or something like that and it was still good I think anything like that,
anything like that serves as a great reminder to the people the church that our humanitarian work our charity work
all those things matter a great deal and we should not forget them and all of our day-to-day work is Latter Day Saints within the church like those are crucial part of Who We Are,
biggest part of me was a little disappointed cuz without without some kind of,
clear call-to-action it could be a little bit like we are all doing amazing things packed yourself on the back.

Jared:
[36:00] Paul thing where you’re craving admonishment because you know if you’re chastise that means that your love is like is that what we’re going for here like,
the Apostle Paul you know the New Testament,
I just I just think it’s funny that you’re like I’m just so disappointed that we were admonished every once in a while it’s nice to hear hey guys we’re doing really well this good job job,
do you know when we ask for donations you come in strong you know I mean it’s nice to get a high-five for the profit every once in awhile.

Geoff:
[36:32] I guess that’s a fair point I was like President Hinckley cuz I feel like it delivered the tough love pretty well and that’s what I grew up.

Kurt:
[36:38] There’s your there’s your title for this episode Jeff a high-five from the prophet that’s truly what this.

Sisters:
[36:44] It’s positive parenting.

Geoff:
[36:46] I’m not naming this episode.

Sisters:
[36:48] Can we talk.

Geoff:
[36:52] Terrible 4S Joker come on.

Jared:
[36:54] You rejected my brand I am so I’m so insulted.

Geoff:
[36:57] That’s a probably say to the Aloft Pauline Epistles Oh They’ll Romans you rejected my brand.

Sisters:
[37:05] Okay can we talk about President Nelson’s talk at the Women’s Conference yes we need to talk about talk at the Women’s Conference he said add how the priesthood,
you know how the women have to grease a power have the priests power he said some pretty powerful things that,
I’ve never I guess heard phrase that way before he talks about how when we have our callings,
we have direct access to Priester power when were set apart for our callings,
to administer to those that were over I mean to minister and help those and I just thought it was so interesting that the end of this talk you announce the temples I fell,
so coordinated and planned and I felt like he was,
I don’t know what has that ever happened before where they’ve announced temples in the Saturday night session no I don’t think it’s ever happened.

Geoff:
[38:06] Wanted to pass because I made it for a long time the Saturday night’s action was just always the priesthood meeting.

Sisters:
[38:10] Right.

Geoff:
[38:11] Is that.

Kurt:
[38:12] Yeah I do I do remember when President Hinckley now it’s the smaller Temple approach in priesthood meeting and that was that sound like a big announce.

Geoff:
[38:20] And every you every Church presence in a different way present months and pretty reliably announced temples during his remarks on Sunday morning that was pretty common president Nelson so far has announced them during his little thanks for coming remarks.

Sisters:
[38:33] Right and I think that’s where we were all expecting it and I just felt like it was very thought out and planned to be at the end of this talk about Presa.
I felt like it was him saying I just got done telling you women that ended this is just me speculating obviously just got done telling us how we have you know the priest of power in our lives and now I’m going to back it up
cuz I’m in and out two circles right here and I also thought it was a real kind of reminder to everyone
that this is women’s session is now in session of caveats and which it has been for a couple years now but I felt like it was.

[39:15] A reminder to us like sure will do in the women’s session this is part of conference now so will and when
I just got to say one of the things he said right before he made the temple announcement is he told the sisters he said your input in family Ward and state council’s he says is essential not ornamental
and so I think then to follow the temple announcements after that at least from a woman’s perspective I just felt like
oh he is driving at home we are essential we’re not ornamental and it also made me wonder I’m in this is a man that grew up raising 9 daughters and one son you know what impact did that have on him in his views of women given he’s got a lot of women in his life.

[40:04] Anyway I thought it was really interesting and kind of cool I wasn’t I just wasn’t expecting it and when they launched into it I was like oh,
he’s going to announce the temples right here right now.

Geoff:
[40:15] Yeah. He was leading into it a bit and kind of you know talking about the setting it up a little bit temples are cool and other glasses good him like he could he could almost be going to the temple now. But I’m like you wouldn’t do that.

Sisters:
[40:27] That’s why everything else but he did.

Geoff:
[40:31] He’s Rogue man Russell M Nelson just does what he wants he is the John McCain of Mormons the man.

Sisters:
[40:39] All right well speaking of Temple announcements do you want to go there Jeff.

Geoff:
[40:44] Oh sure I mean if we’re here is this this is this my moment app at my.

Sisters:
[40:47] This is your mama.

Geoff:
[40:48] Chastised.

Sisters:
[40:49] You did pretty good this year.

Geoff:
[40:51] I don’t like being chastised by Temple now so I’m very happy about this no tough love for me hear these are pretty cool and it’s genuinely we just stand on the shoulders of giants but we actually happened to get some exactly right and some
pretty clothes that’s in McAllen Texas was the only one that was,
straight up left field nothing we even hit it at the end of anything we did so Freetown I’m so stoked to hear about I think that one is bad,
in the mix for quite a while with with the church has been growing I mean on the podcast we talked about the temple as we mentioned that I think every stake in Sierra Leone has been organized in 2010 I mean
it’s nine years and have six legs and three districts I mean it’s crazy how the church is growing in West Africa that’s awesome and my Bishop is from Sierra Leone and so it was pretty
we’re having a fun time texting back and forth I was really cool I’m so excited for him,
Aura my kids you not was written out as one of the pics when we were working on the publication,
and then we scuttled inside cuz we had we already had too many this year anyway,
and we took that when I said I was going to table or if we’re just not going to do that with of Course Branson Missouri which made perfect sense but,
or so it doesn’t shock me I think it’s really interesting what crack me up I don’t know if you guys sell the Republic’s down the Twin feed,
the response from the City of Orem to the temple announcement did anybody else see this.

Sisters:
[42:14] Oh I saw it I thought it was hilarious.

Geoff:
[42:17] I was dying it’s so if anyone hasn’t seen this they basically to show a picture of the Draper Temple and then said,
it’s not the woman’s meeting for the Nelson and you know announce it in Orem Utah temple we do not know any that we did not know anything about this announcement and therefore have no idea,
permission to share it off just think we know we’ve gotten a lot of questions about this so we’re going to answer them right here and they’re only answer was we didn’t know about this and we have nothing to say,
or did not seem very excited about a temple.

Kurt:
[42:49] If you worked at you know where the temple committee or whatever the first the first meeting of even discussing in Orem Temple or even any temple in Utah as we’re not telling anybody outside of this room or there won’t be much of an announcement.

Geoff:
[43:02] Well I assume though that I don’t know exactly how this works out but I’m guessing in most cases the church likely has been working with a municipality
prior to announcing a temple but I have to wonder if in Utah they just don’t and maybe it’s wrong but maybe it’s cuz they assume with the heavily Latter Day Saint
population they can just kind of throw him out there and it was like yeah I mean the only place they’re going to run into trouble was like Midvale other than that,
or Park City they can’t drop when in Park City,
without notifying them Advanced thankfully that’s not going to happen anytime soon so the or one correct method of course they also Nelson temple in Taylorsville Utah sorry Kurt I think that’s supposed to West Valley City as work.

Kurt:
[43:39] Hey I’ll take it the mistake I grew up in and I’m actually sitting in that steak right now is at Taylorsville North Central steak so this is close enough my family and everybody wieser to look at each other like we’re on Earth,
there were surrounded where landlocked with,
this new development and so it’s like you either take down a high school shopping center or houses.

Geoff:
[44:03] And I was so I’m glad you have some input here cuz I was wondering about that for the reasons you laid out a lot of temples in Utah plate have gone into
you don’t know you were towns newer developments that I’m thinking about Draper Oquirrh Mountain you know these are all like new communities that are being built up at the temple it’s going up in Layton is going up on a big old farm that the church bought out
are the Temple of the Tooele Valley is just a nerd out which is just nothing there except for a restaurant that’s apparently very well love that the search is going to tear down,
The Taylorsville like you said Taylorsville is,
West Central sort of of the valley so it’s already got cities all around it I don’t know where they’re going to put,
I have to actually get some input from none other than Richie Steadman who knows Taylorsville well and he thinks,
it is going to go ride around by the golf course and the 215 so like me.

Kurt:
[44:56] I would imagine we’ll be pretty close to the 215 just.

Geoff:
[44:59] So like Murray Parkway and 50th hundred South if that means anything to you currently looks like there’s some open land are near a park that could be something I don’t know if there’s some other open land that’s over right buy a meeting house off of Bangerter and the,
6200 South bring your Bells yeah it’s true.

Kurt:
[45:17] That’s it was like then you’re getting I would say it’s going to be a little more north than that just because you’re getting too close to Oquirrh Mountain.

Geoff:
[45:25] I don’t know Nelson too close to Jordan River.

Kurt:
[45:28] Right exactly so I would say I would hope more North like at least more north than 5400.

Geoff:
[45:34] Well if it’s in and if it’s in Taylorsville proper The Taylorsville City Limits go to 4100 South that’s all you got after that you’re somewhere else so the Valley Fair Mall everybody I know you had high hopes not in Taylorsville.

Kurt:
[45:47] What you have is it supposed old Acer to build it out of the city of out of the city boundaries but still refer to that City or is that.

Geoff:
[45:56] They do but I think that happens more when a temple goes in like a major metropolitan area and it’s happened to be built and some other municipalities like the Washington DC Temple is actually in Kensington Maryland fine,
but I’m interested in Utah’s case,
it’s not like Taylorsville is like a regional Hub it’s just like one of the town’s that’s there I don’t like I don’t know what about if they’re going to build the temple in Corinth at imagine that just called the current Temple you know like what’s the point,
what do I know I know very little about the stuff in Utah but I’m excited to see them get even more temples that’s like what 23 temples in Utah.

Kurt:
[46:30] Hey I know we’re just so right just here I just can’t stand it.

Geoff:
[46:33] Anyway I’ve spent too much time on this very excited for the Papua New Guinea temple in Port Moresby I think that’s going to be really neat I think our biggest,
concern there was it infrastructure we found some studies that show that only like 3% of the roads in the whole country or paved and the membership spread all around the country so the coolest at the church tries to cooperate with the
local governments to try to improve access to get there I think that could be neat of course,
the big one everybody a place I’ve never been but I’ve been wanting to be in four years Bentonville Arkansas.

Sisters:
[47:08] Yes.

Geoff:
[47:09] Everyone this year when we did the announcement we said we are officially not predicting Rogers or Bentonville because we’re tired of being hosed,
I was not going to do it this time and that’s going to mean this will be the time they announced it and here we are so that’s real.

Sisters:
[47:26] I thought that was funny gif.

Geoff:
[47:29] It meant it’s it’s cuz it’s at what points I don’t know how to argue about it anymore it’s like look it’s it’s more than 200 miles away from the closest Temple anywhere there’s a bunch of steaks in the area at the island where it’s not close to anyone Temple,
but it’s finally happening so good for them we’ve got back a load in the Philippines,
awesome that’s what we predicted that or in the Encore that’s one of the other in the Philippines.

Jared:
[47:53] I thought the official picture was somewhere in the Philippines.

Geoff:
[47:56] The official production was anywhere in the Philippines there’s a difference I have to defend myself here because Joe said like it’s just like a Russia thing like you’re just saying a temple somewhere in the Philippines will We Will Reveal later and I’m saying no,
if you put a map of the Philippines up and throw a dart at it you’ve got like an 85% chance of the church is going to announce a temple there,
this is how they’re doing things the Philippines doubts we mention McAllen and then a Coban Guatemala did not see that coming we thought there be another temple in Guatemala City coupons further north in the Highland region of Guatemala its it itself is not a huge City
Bob Ironman so I imagine it’s going to be a smaller Temple maybe I’m going to guess it’ll be in the van of like the ones are putting up there in Cape Verde and Guam,
Pacific gas otherwise cool stuff man cited for everybody.
Good good good stuff I halfway one of the presidents was going to announce more of them this afternoon might just say those eight weren’t enough it’s not enough Eight is Enough.

Sisters:
[48:55] Turn down some more.

Geoff:
[48:57] To say like everybody okay okay we’re going to do the one in Bakersfield current I feel like I have to apologize for you what happened on your wall to know if you saw that.

[49:09] I know meaning LDS group we people commented on our they sent some people from Bakersfield felt that we were unduly harsh towards Bakersfield,
and I was feeling very academic that day and so my responses were very like look at not a dick it’s just facts grow up.

[49:31] So I apologize to all of them and someday they will get their temples anyway.

Jared:
[49:37] I realized I didn’t realize that there were people who felt loyal to Bakersfield.

Geoff:
[49:41] Well okay so my understanding of Bakersfield and I can relate a little bit to this I got so big Asheville to me Los Angeles Temple District
and the people there say look like we are the lifeblood of the LA Temple now like most of the workers there for the Bakersfield area I just said that’s all well and good but you haven’t organized a new stake in 30 years and so like temples don’t go where growth isn’t happening I don’t
I mean thing it’s just it’s just usually doesn’t not the case right temple in LA in Temple in Fresno and you haven’t had any steak for that long,
you’re not going to get a temple that doesn’t happen that’s all and people to take this to be like it’s a mean thing and Bakersfield does suck so there is that too.

Jared:
[50:19] I was going to drop their ego.

Geoff:
[50:23] But it did.

Sisters:
[50:24] Sorry.

Geoff:
[50:26] Big no actually I’m not the one it real. Joe is the one who said the meanest things about Bakersfield Bakersfield is it’s got a lot of pollution in a high crime level there does have a good decent food scene and.

Jared:
[50:39] Let’s go to Tommy’s so there’s that.

Geoff:
[50:41] It’s kind of the Tommy’s all over Southern California and that’s all I can say about.

Sisters:
[50:46] It’s hot it’s really high.

Geoff:
[50:48] It’s very hot there but but the Bakersfield sound of country music is one of the best contributions to country music and if you don’t know the Bakersfield sound is that is your homework dear listeners and we are approaching 50 minutes of the show and we’ve,
literally spoken about like to talks.

Kurt:
[51:06] I just go to president Nelson’s that the next big moment and then yeah we can sprinkle in some.

Geoff:
[51:13] But I want to talk about the worst pun of the entire Conference of we need less Wi-Fi and more Nephi that made me want to punch that beautiful Australian.

Jared:
[51:22] I think that’s all we need to say about it.

Geoff:
[51:25] Elder Vinson you’re better than this.

Kurt:
[51:27] He did in his defense he was quoting another leader that I think he heard that Bishop say that or something.

Geoff:
[51:32] Oh that that’s the kind of thing that just shouldn’t be did you don’t you don’t perpetuate.

Kurt:
[51:38] General authorities live for those moments when they can say something like that.

Geoff:
[51:42] Ponderize we will never forget the ponderize debacle.
How to monetize conference everybody that was.

Kurt:
[51:52] That should be the the new passwords for all the church buildings is is more Nephi rather than pioneer47 just be Monifah.

Geoff:
[51:59] You’re not supposed to say the password on the.

Jared:
[52:05] Well he didn’t say he was a capital T so.

Kurt:
[52:07] He single-handedly caused a huge problem for the IT department they now have to go through every building and reset the router.

Geoff:
[52:14] I literally think the only reason we’re fortunate to have one Wi-Fi password across the church is because the brother in travel and they don’t want to make them deal with finding out the Wi-Fi password at whatever random meeting.

Kurt:
[52:25] It feels like Zion Jeff when you walk into a random building in a random place in the world and boom you’re connected.

Geoff:
[52:30] And that internet could do absolutely nothing but you’re so happy you have it.

Sisters:
[52:33] I don’t know if I have never had that experience before.

Geoff:
[52:39] What I don’t know that they do though is in countries with different alphabets like I bet I went to church in Germany and pioneer47 still work for the Wi-Fi but like what if you’re in a sorority,
country and everything they have in all their managing that was the Cyrillic alphabet what do they do then is it phonetically Pioneer I don’t know the answer to,
so if anybody has any tips or if you’re in,
I just what are you do who knows they they can’t possibly be forcing like these poor Ukrainian so just like use English for all the church,
would you want to talk about President Nelson’s other Nelson why you mean the whole like Temple recommend stuff Kurt. You’re getting it yeah.

Kurt:
[53:16] Yeah this is huge Jeff I mean it’s it’s it’s a slight adjustment but but did the cliffhanger.

Geoff:
[53:21] Some might even call it a huge yes yes.

Sisters:
[53:32] Yes.

Geoff:
[53:34] So all right Kurt you’re big on it walk us through what happened it this Sunday afternoon.

Kurt:
[53:40] Yeah. Obviously will Elder Anderson mentioned something that you know don’t worry I’m the last talk before President
president Nelson speaks and we all got a good chuckle out of that
but when you got there that’s where I thought you maybe there are more Temple announcements or things right and then he sort of alluded to the temple and Mike while he may go there but no he went in another angle with the with the temple recommend questions and.

[54:08] As somebody who’s who’s been a bishop in his sake Princeton read through these a lot like there are there were several questions where she sort of like a like
50% of time I would get there and read it to the individual and they would just sort of look at me like so
what am I answer to give a quick explanation but oh yeah sure not a problem at all
you know just with the are you affiliated with or you know referencing family members are saying so and I feel like,
this new transition the old ones are very behavioral focused and the new
the one is much more of you know looking on the heart and where it where do you feel like you’re at you know can you do feel like you’re in a place where you can comfortably 8 and then we can both completely sign this recommend type of,
think so so the updated the temple recommend questions I know there’s,
any others I think that everybody have cuz there’s been the Rumours far as the emphasis on the word of wisdom and so I assertive bracing myself like is he maybe maybe they won’t mention the word of wisdom you know maybe they’ll leave that one out and you know not the day
they won’t be a commandment anymore but maybe you won’t be emphasis in the recommend.

Geoff:
[55:15] Curiously they did update the language on that one a little bit I believe they said amazing is it.

Kurt:
[55:20] Yeah they did I have a I have a right here do you understand and obey the word was.

Geoff:
[55:26] So not just you keep it but do you understand the word of wisdom which is interested.

Kurt:
[55:30] Yeah I would say that other big one is the do you strive to keep the Sabbath day holy
bolt at home at a church attend your meetings prepare for and worthily partake of the sacrament and live your life and Harmony of the laws and Commandments of the Gospel.

Geoff:
[55:46] Did we talk about public and private we talk about that one.

Kurt:
[55:52] Audi is that Honesty honesty.
See.

Geoff:
[55:59] Do you follow the teachings of the Church of Jesus Christ in your private and public Behavior with members of your family and a.

Kurt:
[56:06] Tyus I got was that I think that was a biggest question that needed the the biggest you’re the most clarification and I think they did a good job.

Geoff:
[56:14] I think this be your sisters can send how much they love Mormons behaving badly I think they can appreciate the in private part of that question quite a bit of weight.
Yeah I lied.

Sisters:
[56:28] I did the one that stuck out to me didn’t wasn’t there one in there about having clean thoughts also.

Kurt:
[56:35] Yes that was a grand the chastity.

Sisters:
[56:36] And that was Nero with it the chapter the elaborate.

Jared:
[56:38] Separate.

Kurt:
[56:44] Yes I’m trying to find it here,
did that the Lord has said that all things are to be done and cleanliness before him do you strive for moral cleanliness in your thoughts and behavior do you obey the law chest.

Geoff:
[57:04] Prettiest thing what’s this thing is they got rid of the language about whether to explicitly you affiliate with groups that just says do supporter promote any teachings practices or doctrine
contrary to those at the church and I wonder a little bit what album was tweet I thought the affiliation one was probably too black and white of a question for something that requires nuance,
but I also,
yeah. Obviously if you support these things that are contrary to the teachings of the church but are they saying you could be a member of,
a group as long as you’re not support I don’t know.

Jared:
[57:40] You can be in John Birch Society but not of the John Birch Society.

Geoff:
[57:45] You could be a member of ordain women but as long as you know march on Temple Square,
would like why would you be a member of that group if you did not have core support or promote the teachings of the I don’t know why they bothered so and this is what how many points do we have to know if 15 it was AR-15 before was a 12 before.

Jared:
[58:06] Yeah but,
I think they Less Bait they they cut down a little bit because a couple of those questions were really long ago was the beginning about sustaining your leaders it was like a three-part question and it was pretty lengthy and they really cut that down quite a bit so I like that.

Geoff:
[58:21] Are they there any indications are going to keep that little you know the kind of added that blurb about the Garment to govern explanation it is that going to remain or is that the sort of folded into this Tuesday.

Kurt:
[58:31] I would guess that that it will remain especially since they didn’t mention otherwise.

Jared:
[58:36] I don’t know I guess we’ll see as of tomorrow.
Beginning tomorrow this is the question.

Geoff:
[58:46] The other not messing around so.

Sisters:
[58:48] And I think if you go to the church,
that their media site I think I saw something floating around on Facebook later on this afternoon that they have released through their media site the exact wording of all the questions.

Geoff:
[59:04] Yeah I said it to the Ender’s room right now.

Sisters:
[59:06] Israel.

Geoff:
[59:08] Make sure you pay your financial obligation that’s important to,
that’s cool man they just keep dropping stuff right and left makes me wonder so much if president Nelson has spent years in private with Wendy just being like,
and there’s the stuff we could do better and I firmly believe these are things you know you
you pray you pray about it you take the Lord to go through all the right steps but if there is a course the human element the drive these things I mean there’s a reason none of this was happening under President Monson Beyond his health issues near the end like this,
that wasn’t his,
style or what have you and I don’t know where the line is and how much the Lord is inspiring president Nelson do this person’s how much president Nelson and had a lot of ideas with things we need to,
amend and alter the church and let’s do you know let’s do it let’s been really fascinating for me to watch,
and you know I don’t know if it’s because he’s he’s like to move a Breakneck pace and get it done I don’t know if it’s because he knows he’s 95 and while he seems to be in good healthy doesn’t really know how long that’s going to last so he’s going to like get it done while he’s here,
it’s been so interesting to see and I keep wondering every conference like what more could they tweak and yet stuff.

Sisters:
[1:00:20] You know Jeff I have kind of an interesting thought on that I was thinking about this last night cuz like I said I had a lovely four hour drive home from Utah and I have been reading the David O McKay biography based on your recommendation if you podcast.

Kurt:
[1:00:34] So good.

Sisters:
[1:00:35] It is really good
and you know this when you read in the David O McKay biography and you talked about this how David O McKay really set the foundation for what we know the modern Church to be you know we have the Church of the eighteen hundreds of the early nineteen hundreds of little things were kind of Rogue all over and he really kind of centralized things that was correlation brought all of that into
place so that we were kind of more unified and then I think each profit since then has built upon that but I think when you look at what president
Nelson has done just in the very short amount of time that he’s been the profit you know I wonder if history is going to look at him as setting the foundation for the millennial Church
you know
putting these things in place for as we head towards the Millennium in the way that we look at the things that David O McKay did to set a place for the modern church and it’s interesting when you talk about correlation and in some ways it seems like we are kind of stepping away from correlation I think we’re still very correlated but we’re given more autonomy
to pray and be guided by the spirit and I think we’re capable of that now I don’t think
we as a church were capable of that 50 years ago and so I think it’s very interesting to kind of see the evolution over the last
78 years.

Geoff:
[1:01:58] They are for sure and I also think it’s funny it’s fun to watch the way different Church leadership does things my mom years ago,
said to me once there are caretaker profits and there are like changemaker profits like what she’s saying like President Monson was pretty much a caretaker Prophet a couple things change but by and large,
there’s a sort of an oak Steady As She Goes by President Nelson is obviously innovator I think president Hinckley was more of a changemaker type and you can go through history and find out which ones for which so I love the idea of setting it up for,
the Millennium both of the sense of the Millennium was the big and that also building the church for like Millennials and building a church that can work towards the future because,
I mean,
art the degeneration of Millennials has struggled a lot and that’s why so many efforts we’ve had have been useful from the gospel topics essays which date back to president Monson up until all the things we’re doing now,
a lot of people have become disaffected in left and things like that and so it’s a very good time to make us better so that we can be stronger and so that generation can find a place and the church otherwise,
it’s a Lost Generation and then where.

[1:03:12] Cool man alright well he would have me like talk they want to talk about or anything like anything else spoke to you.

Kurt:
[1:03:20] Adult would you want to talk about the Cliffhanger at all or.

Geoff:
[1:03:23] Oh yeah yeah by the Cliffhangers so obviously conference will be coming from space in 6 month.

Kurt:
[1:03:32] It better be nothing short of the stadium of fire Jeff.

Geoff:
[1:03:35] I want the International Space Station I want president Nelson up there because I know he can handle the g-forces I’m not even worried.
No I’m so the Cliffhanger was the president Monson mentioned that 2022b the 200th anniversary of the first vision
which is a big deal when I think I flatly not even thought of that with all the other 20 20 things going on I think my mind is so much more in the election stuff about something a little bit more important for example of the first vision,
Bicentennial and president I believe President Nelson’s exact words were General Conference therefore will be unlike any other,
in the past and encouraged us to read up on our read up on the account of the first vision and study the Book of Mormon in preparation and didn’t tell us anything more beyond that,
you work if any of you are Apostles by chance and you want to leak information to me that’s Jeff at this week in Mormons.

Sisters:
[1:04:36] So now begins 6 months of rumors and speculation which we love to do right.

Jared:
[1:04:42] Should be go around and each psych give one one unofficial guess I’ll be nice if you could just be interesting to hear what everybody’s thinking.

Geoff:
[1:04:47] Yes yeah sure I’m not going to start.

Jared:
[1:04:51] Out of all the first I got a I got a prediction that I’m sorry if I’m stealing anyone’s but I think they’re going to do a remote conference I think they’re going to do conference from upstate New York.

Geoff:
[1:05:03] Palmyra.

Jared:
[1:05:04] Yeah.

Kurt:
[1:05:05] Which was done in 1980 they did host a conference from Fayette.

Jared:
[1:05:10] That’s what I was going to say that yeah they can so that would be a reason maybe to discount it or disqualify that guess because he said it would be unlike any other conference.

Kurt:
[1:05:19] Which is a better eye purple.

Jared:
[1:05:20] Right well I mean and it really wasn’t they didn’t do the entire conference today they just had President Kimball at the Peter Whitmer Farm house which had just been restored and she conducted via satellite like
conference from there wasn’t like they move the entire conference there. So maybe maybe it still counts is unlike anything else because you know maybe they’ll have the conference actually take place somewhere in the new Palmyra or
that.

Geoff:
[1:05:46] I mean if a I’m Trish with Logistics would be like with this be an outdoor conference.

Jared:
[1:05:50] I mean that you have got to work where do they do the Hill Cumorah Pageant.

Geoff:
[1:05:54] At the actual Hill Cumorah it’s not just a clever name.

Jared:
[1:05:55] Hey go what’s still there.

Geoff:
[1:05:58] That could work it be funny if there was like after the Hill Cumorah Pageant ended which it won’t be just to say hey we still have a use for this land okay sorry.

Jared:
[1:06:07] Does my guess that’s my guess remote conference from upstate New York.

Geoff:
[1:06:11] All right sisters you can each have one you are not Legion.

Sisters:
[1:06:15] Well that was kind of what I was thinking to you that was the only guess I had was it,
it’s got to be from the sacred grove right or part of it I don’t know or if they had so so they have
conference at the conference center but they have different people at remote locations giving their talks at remote locations talking about,
spiritual things that happened at those remote locations so you wouldn’t necessarily have to have everybody at that remote location but yet your video feed from the remote location,
yeah you can hit up all the early church history sites.

Geoff:
[1:06:54] All of them that could be very interesting okay okay food for. Kurt.

Kurt:
[1:07:00] Well I would say they’re going to it’s going to be similar to the come follow me effort wear instead of going to church till the to have church you don’t go to the conference center for conference you do at your home so they’re going to send out a packet of how to conduct your own General,
conference in your home there will be no feed whatsoever it’ll just be dad conduct,
and a variety of of individuals in the family Little Johnny will talk about the first Vision Sarah was going to talk about the different versions of the first vision and,
the contradictions that’s great over that over the decades and and it’ll be a home centered General Conference.

Sisters:
[1:07:40] Omad that would sort of.

Geoff:
[1:07:43] Will will they let will they let the women pray though.

Kurt:
[1:07:48] Oh yeah absolutely.

Sisters:
[1:07:51] I guess it depends on if Dad wants to eat dinner.

Geoff:
[1:07:56] Okay guys my theory other than the one the only one I can really think of which is the upstate New York one but like Jared said it’s sort of happened already,
my theory is it conference is held from the banks of Lake st. Clair in Ontario Canada why is that you asked because president Nelson,
will confirm the Great Lakes theory is the correct geographical placement theory for the Book of Mormon where in Lake Saint Clair will be identified as the Waters of Mormon,
we have it and there will be Mass baptisms and much rejoicing also we will do a screening of that goofy-looking Nephites in Europe video that I saw circulating on YouTube,
that will also be a part if you don’t know what I’m talking about I would say don’t waste your time but don’t look it up because I it’s probably worth an article or maybe we should even have the,
people on Twin I should write this down anyway everyone is going to be great afterwards we’ll go to Detroit you know Detroit Rock City it’ll be fun we’ll talk about the urban blight Funtime dollar.

Jared:
[1:08:57] Virtual by up an entire 20 square city blocks and turn it into a church Farm.

Geoff:
[1:09:03] I mean the only other option in the remote vicinities instead we go to The Straits of Mackinac and if anyone knows where that is anyone or do I need to know,
The Straits of Mackinac Straits of Mackinac of the street that actually separates Lake Michigan from Lake Huron technically there one body of water cuz no Falls or break or anything between them and there’s a large bridge on Interstate 95 across is this straight we do bungee jumping.

[1:09:31] So I think Jared wins but I left her outside.

Jared:
[1:09:34] I only went to the first because I was told we’re all thinking.

Geoff:
[1:09:38] The ultimate evolution of come follow me there is no more General Conference at all in fact Elder Elder renlund wannstedt mail you his remarks and you may deliver them and instead.

Jared:
[1:09:48] And that little home packet was going to be a little DIY teleprompter in there.

Kurt:
[1:09:54] Make your make your ten-year-old read president Oaks remarks just two to really give him some some spunk.

Geoff:
[1:10:01] For all of this I hope we do what they’ve done with in a creepy way with like Michael Jackson and Tupac and we use Holograms,
things I think that could be very useful either in a general setting we could do a hologram of Joseph Smith people that is there going to be.

Kurt:
[1:10:22] Of course all things lead to Virtual Reality I’m saying will all receive a headset and we’ll all be there.

Geoff:
[1:10:29] And he’ll be like the lawnmower man so that’ll be the life,
all right well I don’t know what to do with this point we’re over an hour long were they okay where there are talks that jumped out what were the what was the messaging you like what what do you feel after this conference Beyond of course all this administrivia that we talked about for an hour what,
what are we made fun of Elder Vinson that’s great good job and I love daughter christofferson’s talk,
personally like I took more personal notes on that one Beyond just his remarks I talked to a guy who talked a lot about Joy like the joy we feel from becoming christ-like and,
I took a lot of notes like saying do I like putting my burdens on Christ am I like buried so much of my own worries,
turn off focused on Joy Joy matters and we can lean on Christ and have a lot more joy I thought that was great.

Kurt:
[1:11:21] I would say a president Oaks at some pretty poignant talks you know talking about the afterlife and ceilings and the ambiguities there and then and then I’ll so you know I had to the LGBT message which,
I mean I’m I’m grateful that they address this but is there anybody else like in the first presidency in the corner of the wants to give that talk because he’s,
he gets a bad rap I mean cuz he’s so he’s such a lawyer and it’s such a sensitive topic so it comes across like of it to.

Geoff:
[1:11:53] He says the word LGBT and I look at Twitter just waiting for people to be like.

Sisters:
[1:12:02] Theory on why he why he is the lgtb man is because he has a rap everybody knows that’s his stick and so you know what why make somebody else out there to have to have the bad rap let’s just put it all on him and he’s.

Kurt:
[1:12:18] But the guy that’s on Deck to be the next prophet and started,
play have some fans by the time.

Geoff:
[1:12:27] I mean I don’t know if you like to talk was crazy just about all I was worried when I didn’t even mention LGBT I was like oh boy where we going with this today it was a little bit different from.

Kurt:
[1:12:36] He has much softer than I think some of his other talks.

Geoff:
[1:12:39] So did anybody else find a white When you mention his other talk about the spirit world and you know that the letter he received,
from the second wife will be sheep stuck in heaven with the first wife it was kind of humorous but I was I don’t know that I was offended but I was one of the types of said I don’t know if,
like someone who wrote this letter was looking to get a laugh out of this.

Jared:
[1:13:03] How’s the little flippant.

Geoff:
[1:13:06] It’s all a little weird.

Sisters:
[1:13:06] A lot of people going through that that it really is a big deal for.

Geoff:
[1:13:13] I mean it’s you tonight and I guess I like the whole point of the talk of course is just trust in God live your good life focus on focus on keeping the Commandments doing what’s right,
everything you can and trust that God will take care of it I think most of it was that message and so I enjoyed it but when it let off with that I was like somebody’s going to take this in a weird way,
I mean it’s not everyone’s job to say don’t be offended by me but,
I feel like if you didn’t want people to laugh you can freeze things in a certain way with a certain Tanner so the people know not to laugh as opposed to sort of a delivery that opened itself up for some Chuck.

Sisters:
[1:13:49] Will every other thing I thought to is you know one of his points was you know book your kind of focusing on the wrong thing let’s focus on the bigger picture here both in that example and I think he used another example as well just like you said he could have phrased that differently so that it
wasn’t meant to be humorous and still got his point across that you know sometimes we get caught up in stuff that is really,
when we look at the big picture maybe not as big of a deal as we think that it is it again I mean not and not to minimize,
any woman who is struggling with that because it is a real struggle bug sisters but I agree it could have been phrase differently.

Geoff:
[1:14:33] Yeah I can’t imagine what that’s like I mean I only know I’m not a woman I’ll never deal with having two,
potentially lose a spouse and then not being able to be sealed to my subsequent one,
right like that’s not something I deal with is a man in the church and so I’m I’m very I haven’t been through that are acutely sensitive to that cuz I know people who have been widowed when they’re,
yeah women who like 23 24 and they might even have kids already but even if they don’t have kids like you’re putting a lot of trust in God both the,
you know you’re going to find a man who’s going to sail I’m cool with this like I’m cool with not being able to get sealed to you and not having our children sealed to us and trusting in God again but that still doesn’t make it any easier when you don’t have answers and mortality that’s what’s up.
Turn up Elder renlund talk the man always good talks you know he’s got a very calm delivery but the man has great anecdotes I loved the,
idea of how the Commerce to Christianity through their Idols in the falls and they deliberately put through them do their former life those symbols of their former life into Rough Waters from which they would be unrecoverable
and that was a great metaphor for all of us being converted and truly committed to God you know we don’t we don’t just go drop off our cares,
in the bathtub so we can pick it up later we we Chuck it down to agra falls people which will also be a location of the.

Sisters:
[1:16:01] Yes I like to present I rings from this afternoon he talks about happiness and Holiness and kind of how they relate,
you know the more we can grow from our trials at the more will grow in Holiness which then can lead to happiness and talks about Holiness being a gift from heavenly father not necessarily the,
it’s something that we are in but it’s just a you know it’s a gift given from him as we strive to do better.

Geoff:
[1:16:32] I wrote the same thing. I love that I always think about Holiness being something I like obtain,
like I’m work so hard and I become holy and I don’t necessarily look at it thinking,
no I still work hard. I know this is a gift like God will sanctify you and make you more holy as you start to be better as a gift which is awesome.

Sisters:
[1:16:52] Yeah I said it was cool and then bring it back to happiness and how it’s all part of you know the Lord’s plan and can bring us happiness and joy in our life.

[1:17:06] One of the ones I liked was in the women’s session it was the first Speaker aberto who is a Relief Society counselor
she was very Frank with mental illness and I loved it
because there are a lot of women in the church that I am aware of it and I’m sure men as well that struggle with mental illness issues and she just put it out there and she’s like you know what
there is no shame in this if you are struggling with mental health
mental illness issues you know go and get the help that you need and she was also very Frank about her father dying of suicide when she was very young and to me that was very
I don’t know I don’t want to say humanizing the bed I was like okay this
sister has has you know I mean I don’t know what else she’s dealt with in her life but just that thing alone just having a parent that dies and then having a parent that dies of suicide and like she gets it snow by she knows what she’s talking about and I think one of the things that I liked that she said is she said you know Perfection is a journey in this life and the next and she said it’ll quit beating yourself up about being perfect because
nobody expects you to be perfect in this life we expect you just keep trying.

Geoff:
[1:18:26] They seem to be a number of Dockside that reiterated that point of not comparing yourself to others and not all throughout conference I’m even getting all the way up to,
Elder the Elder Johnson even though almost all the way there the very end spoke about the same thing and then of the toxicity of social media culture and how much we can just always think they were not enough,
when that’s not the k.

Jared:
[1:18:50] I really liked another gong’s talk it really spoke to be I’ve been taking actually a lot lately about the importance of being a part of the covenants and you know,
how the Covenant plays out my relationship with the Savior and things and so and I like the way you phrase using the phrase Covenant belonging,
and I just thought it was a great way to get him out of the Covenant helps us to belong to something in it and that to me also emphasize,
that salvation is both individual as well as collective that we need to belong to a larger body of a covenant people in order to,
achieve the kind of exaltation that the Lord intends for us so he just gave me a lot to think about and I was one of the ones I kind of started in my notes and I need to come back to this one.

Geoff:
[1:19:38] I’m surprised no one yet has mentioned Elder uchtdorf the man spoke about Hobbits people how is no one.

Jared:
[1:19:46] Yeah sorry I I guess.

Geoff:
[1:19:49] Especially you Jared I know where your lease is.

Jared:
[1:19:51] Oh yeah and I guess nrnr pre-show banter we talked about a little bit so I forgot that I hadn’t talked about it on the record that yes I do love I was very excited when I lived or food I love to your speaker,
let in with what he said there’s a beloved children is this another CS Lewis talk.

Geoff:
[1:20:10] There’s some children that enter a wardrobe and then.

Jared:
[1:20:13] It was magical I mean I loved it.

Geoff:
[1:20:17] Literally.

Jared:
[1:20:18] Hahaha I just I love it when,
when they show us that it’s okay to take something quote unquote worldly you know this was a a fantasy novel written by a devout Catholic,
intentionally or otherwise inserted a lot of Christian symbolism and in such a dinner I don’t tell people can I sit next to you he would hit me if he heard me say that better,
but you’re not so but still it’s something that sort of like oh you know here’s this fantasy novel stick to that stick to the cannon and yet I love that when we heard general authorities pulling out,
Tolkien and Lewis and even a few years ago and Martel Life of Pi was used in conference which was an interesting choice so.

Geoff:
[1:21:04] Yeah I was once in a meeting with a member of the 70 and he was he was dropping a lot like plastic names of philosophers and thinkers with quotes and he just says and also is Albus Dumbledore once said,
and then just goes on to cite Harry Potter and I was like dude you are the man check you out straight up, and by that point The Last Bookstore in even out so we don’t even think he knew Dumbledore was dead,
it was amazing.

Jared:
[1:21:32] In the I think it was in the millennial Messiah one of those Bruce R mcconkie backseat there’s a quote that I’ve always liked in these talks about how he says basically I’m paraphrasing he says it’s appropriate to look for and find symbols and images of Christ all around us,
and so I think about that often and I think you know I mean in certainly like it’s it’s kind of natural to find it in the Lord of the Rings trilogy of The Hobbit because of,
poking in 1/4 C is Lewis is very on the nose with his Narnia stuff but why not find symbols of Christ in literature and in the music we listen to in the movies that we consume like it’s there we like in those things and make them two are better.

Geoff:
[1:22:10] Elder Bednar in classic that Darkness you know set up a object lesson explained it I love
the structures are always good is Zoe does whether it’s a pickle or the load of a truck or cheetahs in this case with cool animations that I thought were going to become episodes of Wild Kratts the way they.
Which I’ve seen way too much of in my life you know we talked about cheetahs I like it because you talk about you to sneak out of the toe piece in the toe peas have some Sentinels,
see what’s up with a bolt and you almost think that’s where the story is going to end you don’t be careful of the cheetah thing I said no that she was unrelenting like this happens and they just like
start all over again that is basically keep going until they finally got one and they don’t stop and that was a pretty great metaphor for Satan you know like we can all we’ve always got to be on our watch because it’s not like he’s going to get tired,
after a couple of tries and failing to get us like we just we can never give up at the toe peas,
all day everyday a cheetah is a predator.
Kurt you’ve been kind of quiet man you got nothing to say are you.

Kurt:
[1:23:19] Well I was I was going to mention Elder bednar’s but I’ll give a shout at the Elder Johnson who is the first African American to speak in conference in just his his I loved his Cadence in general this is you know that take the sacrament everyday or every week every week every week you know
and he was very his pattern was very I thought about
present monster many times where you know you always come with three points in a lot of his talks and that’s how I L Johnson handle it so it was the school.

Jared:
[1:23:48] And I don’t even have a dance but you just as general delivery I found re refreshing he didn’t speak with the I’m a general 30 delivering a conference talk voice he spoke,
it was just refreshing it was it was an it was a unique voice and it delivered with a unique emphasis and it made it for me easier to listen to and it caught my attention because I thought this sounds different,
and so you could have very easily been another I read your scriptures everyday kind of talk but instead it was all I’m hearing him I’m hearing him,
say I need to read my scriptures everyday.

Geoff:
[1:24:28] Headed to I want to give a special message to Elder Boom by the way we’re basically just read giving Elder Holland’s talk about all the instruments mattering,
you know from a couple of years ago that was,
I guess the point that needs to be driven home once more but I’ve already started saying like we are all different instruments I was like this is this is I mean Elder Holland like if that’s like what two years ago.

Jared:
[1:24:51] You know I did the Apostle Paul give that talk to the Corinthians.

Geoff:
[1:24:55] Who is this Paul you keep bringing up.

Jared:
[1:24:57] I’m just saying everything is a rehash all right.

Geoff:
[1:24:59] All right that’s fair that’s the name of this episode right there everything is,
anyway I don’t think this was actually supposed to really good conference I felt,
much more at peace with a lot of stuff on my personal side there’s not a lot just been very stressful lately on my personal side and it’s a lot of love this weekend and just cuddle my boys,
enjoy the quite a bit and I started weeping uncontrollably to do if you see that new short video they have about refugees that they had right after the first session ended on Saturday.

Sisters:
[1:25:35] Oh no I didn’t decide that huh.

Geoff:
[1:25:37] It was at you know they usually they dive into some of the old family is it about time videos and stuff like that for
before the war report start longer-form what about refugees and its canoes to go back in time little by little with this one actor and you finally realize it’s woman who’s helping settle refugees was herself,
started off as a refugee and was eventually settled and got a job at D I was able to get a different job,
and the whole thing was going to stay out there I just started just like crying my wife didn’t know what happened I just I don’t know it just we are so stinkin lucky like the fact that were the five of us sitting here recording a podcast,
piece of peacefully in our homes with technology and stuff and it’s just I think it breaks my heart because there’s such a culture I know the vilified people who are struggling with a lot of,
lot of tough situations right now and I was glad to see the church,
going well out of its way to not vilify those individuals in to speak about how important it is to look after the one so if you haven’t seen it might be but it was clearly Newark,
catches your eye because it would restart Soph with gritty real life War image of Tanks firing and missiles and like poverty and stuff you like Wu when did this become Al Jazeera what is going on right now,
and it became. What was the time I just caught me off-guard and I was a wreck.

Sisters:
[1:26:54] Wow okay you should I didn’t link it on Twin yeah.

Geoff:
[1:26:57] I’ll do I’ll do my best and then you’ll all watch it and say well that was fine Jeff but I don’t know why you were crying like a weirdo and you will judge me.

Sisters:
[1:27:07] We would never judge you Jeff so was it I know that sometimes they have like KSL produced videos was this one that was definitely done by the church and not a KSL produced video.

Geoff:
[1:27:18] It was your eyes.
And now you’re asking me questions I can’t necessarily answer.

Sisters:
[1:27:25] Because you know Carol Makita she is and I don’t know if the Chili’s on BYUtv but I know like in Utah if you’re watching KSL between conference sessions Carole mikita always has a new like report every year,
you’re at least it’s usually half hour to an hour long that is some church-related thing and sometimes they you know what replay some of those during conference sessions,
later on so anyway I just was curious if it was something was produced by the church or potentially produced by KSL.

Geoff:
[1:28:00] I have no idea I’m looking on the ol YouTube right now trying to find something but not having much luck so I will I’ll keep a weather eye and see what I can do it’s got to be some.

Sisters:
[1:28:13] What were you watching a BYUtv or were you.

Geoff:
[1:28:16] No I was I was just what I was only watching the YouTube stream the live show.

Sisters:
[1:28:20] Will YouTube stream apart.

Geoff:
[1:28:23] Party well sorry to get all serious everyone.

Sisters:
[1:28:30] I concur with you I thought it was a beautiful conference and I also walked away feeling very uplifted and quite renewed and just went okay you know I got things to work on,
but I’ve kept at my back on some Pat myself on the back for some of the things I’m doing so let’s get to work on the things I need to work on.

Geoff:
[1:28:53] Oh there we go spend our and a half so we can probably cut it here and,
but you just carry on with your lives who was a great conference I’m sure the talks they do such a great job now getting the tox up online to read and to watch and everything else is just within less than a week for everything it’s very quick so we’re very fortunate,
check that out of course we hope this has been a worthwhile conference with great will be back in six months I assume unless we are have all become,
Holograms or I don’t know we might experience some I don’t know what’s going to happen to any of us I’m frankly afraid.

Jared:
[1:29:28] Will we have Wi-Fi we’re all gathered in Missouri to have conference.

Geoff:
[1:29:37] I just don’t know where they’re going to gather all of us and adam-ondi-ahman and then say it’s pioneer47 guys to stop by.
Don’t I use Twitter not going to work,
so I would love to thank everyone everyone is taking the time to talk about conference this week has been a lot to digest I think this is great very worthwhile so let’s see what’s going around Kirk Franklin my friend from leading States for doing a spell.

Kurt:
[1:30:04] I think Jeff is awesome as always I love talking about convert Sy to feel uplifted and I’m excited to jump back and I’ve actually listen to some of these talks already thanks for the church getting those out there
again so quick but yeah if you want to join us over at leading Saints you can subscribe to the podcast there at the same place where you’re listening to this and hopefully just will continue to have me back on regular
twin episode.

Geoff:
[1:30:27] Okay why did not ask you to plug your your what you’re doing right now.

Kurt:
[1:30:31] What what do you what do you want me to do.

Geoff:
[1:30:32] Just wanted to say thank you you’re a wonderful person thanks.

Kurt:
[1:30:35] Thank you Jeff your podcast is the only one that exists and you are awesome and bless your wife and your children and see you in in the space station.

Geoff:
[1:30:48] Twin sisters Ariana Tiffany YouTuber delightful appreciate you joining us this way.

Sisters:
[1:30:53] Thanks for having us you’re wonderful person Jeff.

Geoff:
[1:30:56] Thank you they have an Instagram feed that you can plug so use that everybody Jared Dylan’s I don’t know if there’s anything for us to plug for you if there’s.
Oh yeah how’s the how does John Luke Picard gas going.

Jared:
[1:31:10] It’s going very slowly we did actually record a new episode today because they released the new trailer yesterday at New York Comic Con so probably drop tomorrow or Tuesday.

Geoff:
[1:31:22] And once again that is the Jean Luke Picard cast.

Jared:
[1:31:25] That’s correct Pico d c a s t.

Geoff:
[1:31:29] Which I assume you can find wherever you get.

Jared:
[1:31:32] Wherever you get podcasts what should be the name of a podcast platform I think wherever you get Podcast.

Geoff:
[1:31:38] Yeah well Apple work better.

Jared:
[1:31:41] Give me thank you I feel happy and lucky to be here.

Geoff:
[1:31:44] I’m Burger before all of you thanks so much and of course you can find this podcast wherever you get Podcast and if you haven’t smashed that subscribe button on your phone please do so,
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they were very happy. Hope you had a great conference for everybody here I’m just appreciate you tuning in be well be holy and be happy.