EP 560 – I Need to Brush Up on My Mesa Architecture

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Should Santa be at the ward Christmas party? What the new Mesa temple means for gentrification; Jeff Flake swears in on a quad.

We are thrilled this week to bring in as co-host Hailey Smith of Once I Was a Beehive, BYUtv’s Show OffsOnce I Was Engaged, and so many more things. It’s a delight to have her on the program. It’s a big week in news, including temple dedications, temple awards, Amazon drivers posing as Latter-day Saint missionaries, new tools for mission presidents, and Christmas parties, to name a few.

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00:00.00
Geoff Openshaw
Hey, everybody what’s going on. It is I Geoffrey Openshaw here for This Week in Mormons happy to join you this week to bring you the greatest in latter-day saint news and before you ask? No I don’t know when we’re gonna rename this program to be something that follows the prophet still have no idea I don’t know I don’t it’ll be a christmas present I have no idea. Find me at the time to fix my domain and all that stuff. Anyway, we hope you’ll join us at This Week in Mormons dot com um and you can read our blogs there and of course I get the notes for the show. All the stories we’re going to talk about this week by the way quick teasers here. Mesa temple’s being rededicated what’s going on with word christmas parties. Cool new tools for mission presidents tabernac requires giving money to liberal actors. Um the rivalry between the desret news amazon workers acting like Missionaries and of course so delicious in swig the battle and epic. Time for for all eternity I’m happy to be joined this week by multiple previous guests of the show. But first time officially christened co-host Haley smith is here everybody hi haley.

01:03.27
Hailey
Hi Thanks for having me this is exciting I can’t I can’t wait to put co-host on my resume tonight right? after her time.

01:07.80
Geoff Openshaw
You You’re very nice to say that if yeah Don Ah I hope it as co-host and thrice guest for for projects I was doing.

01:18.41
Hailey
Yeah, guess. Ah.

01:23.80
Geoff Openshaw
Thrice for the behive fran twice for the behi franchise and once per show offs and ah where is the showoffs I know I ask you every time I mean we we know Utah doesn’t care about masks. So I don’t see what the issue is with filming in front of an an audience. So what’s.

01:25.99
Hailey
Yes, allah die as well. Oh like I don’t know as somebody knows let me know. Ah I know I know did you hear that Byu Tv Utah doesn’t Care. We we can perform again.

01:41.57
Geoff Openshaw
I Don’t know.

01:45.60
Geoff Openshaw
Listen to me be why you actually I shouldn’t insult b youtubev because they’ve been very kind to me and arranging for guests over the years yourself included people buying relative race like they’ve been very very accommodating towards me. No I they’re they’re very nice folks. So ah.

01:53.68
Hailey
They know they know I love them. It’s it’s all good.

02:02.90
Geoff Openshaw
What’s going on in and the world of Haley smith what’s new. Your hair is darker than I’ve ever seen it.

02:03.58
Hailey
Oh Wow Well you know, just um, it is yeah so I just finished up a movie actually filming in Utah It’s a little independent comedy that um, some friends of mine were. Producing and putting together and um, yeah, it’s ah it involves Aliens I’ll say that um but will forte isn’t it and.

02:29.19
Geoff Openshaw
So you but you’re being very well. So did you guys build like was this because of when he was on showoffs is it like following up on the relationship I’m curious like did that actually and yeah, yeah.

02:37.45
Hailey
But yeah, well that definitely helped that definitely helped. Um, so yeah, will was excited to come do it and then they just brought us of us other you know people on board. Ah no, and.

02:52.69
Geoff Openshaw
You’re being very cryptic about I Guess you can you not even say what the school is is.

02:56.86
Hailey
It’s really fun. It’s like a kind of a sort of a coming of age comedy based around these high school kids this where I I play the mom of this high school girl who we’ve just moved from the big city of new york to a small town in Idaho and you know it’s.

03:12.51
Geoff Openshaw
And then you find the true mini of Christmas by meeting a lumberjack or a guy who owns a christmas tree and.

03:16.40
Hailey
Um, yeah, actually our characters move out Idaho to flip houses all ah chip and Joanna so it’s pretty exciting. So yeah, that was my first time playing a house flipper. So.

03:30.51
Geoff Openshaw
Oh that is exciting for you I guess better better chip and Joanna than what was that terrible when they did with those ones from orange county with Terrek what was that 1 you know the flip flipper flop is that the 1 and they got to they were from like my hood like where they were flipping houses was like my immediate.

03:37.80
Hailey
Yes, yes, they got divorce I think I think so and now they. Oh really? Oh yeah and now they got they both got remarried and have their own shows I think.

03:49.71
Geoff Openshaw
City like I’d see in neighborhoods there run up like aha. Ah yep, yep and I guess this yeah it was. It was very real I think so which is great. That means that their divorce has blessed us with twice as much programming. Wonderful.

04:02.90
Hailey
Ah, twice as much programming to watch while when I go get my nails done I.

04:07.58
Geoff Openshaw
I Don’t even have cable. Yeah, it’s literally just not what when I’m at somewhereware like that like like literally the the most hctv I’ve watched live has been my mechanics shop and if I have to or they always have for some reason that’s it’s an auto mechanic but they’ve decided this is what they want to stream and have playing.

04:19.39
Hailey
Yes, yeah I wish they would put it on on my dentist instead. It’s like some documentary about about the ocean and I watch every time it seems to be the part where these whales are killing.

04:26.75
Geoff Openshaw
As htp.

04:36.61
Geoff Openshaw
But what’s what the whales are K like is ah is this is this the pseudo horror movie orca that came out in the wake of jaws when they tried to make us afraid of orcas was it that way you mean black pitch.

04:37.48
Hailey
Things and it’s not relaxing when you’re being drilled on here. Their Killer whales. Yeah. No, it’s an it’s a documentary and every time I go I’m like they only have 1 dvd and they just play this over and over again and it’s not I’m not relaxed I just close my eyes. So I don’t see things in this ocean getting murdered.

05:04.64
Geoff Openshaw
You should just bring it bring up dvd with you and ask them if they’ll just like.

05:06.57
Hailey
By other things in the ocean. Ah I’ll be like can you play up, please.

05:14.85
Geoff Openshaw
Please cooperate. Thank you? Yeah right? Then when you get to the you’ll be under like nos and then the part comes with the talking dogs and you want you’ll think you’re hallucinating good times well gra. We’re glad to have you here. It’s the Christmas season. Lots of good things happening. Actually this is 1 thing I’m ah I’ve been thinking about it is.

05:22.44
Hailey
Ah, yeah.

05:34.72
Geoff Openshaw
It’s it’s it’s Christmas party season both for woke for many of us and for ward parties have you had a award party or you have an award party is it. It.

05:35.60
Hailey
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we had ours um a couple saturdays ago and um I showed up and someone walked up to me and said hey will you mc I was like sure really me.

05:54.26
Geoff Openshaw
Now is that is is this a thing because of your your profession where you get pin you get pineonholed into situations like that on a shirt like it like like when they know you’re ah when they know you’re a choir director professionally and they say cool. You can be the word chorister then this is the only calling you’re ever going to have.

05:54.59
Hailey
Why? But yeah, but.

06:05.47
Hailey
Yeah, yeah.

06:11.00
Hailey
Right for sure I guess I guess it’s similar to that it was like eat me or the guy say next to me and he’s like I’m out I have a call in a little while so I was like okay but I real all I had to do was like list off musical numbers. It wasn’t too stressful, but ah it was It was fun.

06:22.14
Geoff Openshaw
I’m out.

06:30.23
Hailey
And it was a good little breakfast. We do breakfast now no like for the last so many years it’s just been breakfast I think it’s just everyone’s schedules get crazy and nobody wants to give up a Friday or Saturday night I think I don’t know unless.

06:32.58
Geoff Openshaw
Is that like is it a rotating thing or do you only do breakfast every year

06:49.98
Hailey
They’re going to get a really good meal out of it or something. But.

06:50.99
Geoff Openshaw
I well you could provide that I mean so mine. Mine’s difference my bishop is adamantably against the morning shift. We we have 1 because we have 3 words in our building they usually rotate on the times when and it’s dependent in recent years we’ve tried to.

07:01.84
Hailey
Yeah.

07:08.21
Geoff Openshaw
Combined efforts in terms of decoration that way. It’s not 1 word doing a whole thing then tearing it down then another 1 doing it but to facilitate that and not get in the way of Sunday it’s like 1 words Friday night. 1 word is Saturday morning. 1 word is Saturday night. Um, but ours my bishop right now is the agent bishop which is a thing I didn’t even know about until I was in a bishopric.

07:11.12
Hailey
Yep.

07:18.15
Hailey
Yep.

07:23.44
Hailey
Oh.

07:26.63
Geoff Openshaw
Do you know the agent bishop. You know so there’s a bishop if you have multiple units in a building 1 of the bishops is the 1 like responsible for the building and can like call the shots on what happens to the building in terms of furniture or artwork or upkeep all these sorts of things or scheduling. No no, no.

07:29.83
Hailey
Um, yeah, oh okay, yeah, okay so it’s not like a secret agent everyone knows, but maybe it is because I.

07:45.57
Geoff Openshaw
Is the come. It’s the agent this Yeah I never knew about it either until is in my current colleague and but it’s pretty funny to me because he’s just like no, we’re not doing breakfast. We’re never goingnna do breakfast I’m never ever going to take the breakfast slot if I can avoid it So we’re having ours this weekend and my wife got saddled with handling the entertainment.

07:48.25
Hailey
And know. But so it’s a little secret.

08:03.64
Hailey
Ah.

08:04.44
Geoff Openshaw
Portion of the evening and she was like I don’t even know if we’re going to be going to this and they want me.

08:08.62
Hailey
Yes, see because you have plans. No yeah, that’s that’s a lot of work.

08:11.57
Geoff Openshaw
No honestly I know our listeners are tired of it I don’t know if we have plans as much as we don’t know if we want to be in a cultural hall with our entire unmased ward nashing nashing hard. Yeah, that’s like I went to a work party last week but

08:20.10
Hailey
Um, oh a super spreader That’s true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

08:28.57
Geoff Openshaw
Everyone’s required to be vaccinated at work. So I wasn’t as stressed out about it but we can’t do that in art ward situation. So I’m kind of like okay I don’t know what we’re gonna do I don’t know. Yeah, we’ll see.

08:35.46
Hailey
Oh yeah, it’ll be a game time decision for sure. Um, no yeah, no, we didn’t um yeah I can’t I don’t know that anyone is like opposed.

08:39.22
Geoff Openshaw
Now did you guys have Santa though at your party that is my I see all all walks I see in our church whether there’s santa.

08:53.51
Hailey
To Santa in my ward. But I’ve I’ve sat in on meetings where where I’ve been in you know prencies that were in charge of the christmas party and Santa is always a hot topic like do we or don’t we and and I don’t know I just I’m always just like. I don’t know. Do we have someone who has a suit and is willing to do it I don’t see like what the big deal is I think the kids love it and if someone wants to do it I think it’s great.

09:20.58
Geoff Openshaw
Some people like get really worked up about Santa though and I don’t know if it’s just I think some view like is the word christmas party a goofy time is it a time to convene and be reverential about the savior and you know the the true meaning of Christmas which is important and all that.

09:29.26
Hailey
Yeah.

09:36.61
Hailey
Yeah.

09:39.56
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, and I’ve seen a mix I’ve seen but in some meetings where people were militantly anti-santta like they’re just like no if you do Santa we’re not gonna bring our family. We’re like okay and then I’ve been in other words where like the way they advertise the entire party is saying.

09:47.69
Hailey
Oh wow.

09:56.70
Geoff Openshaw
Oh guess who’s almost here and it’s like he’s in the flyers and there’s no mention of Jesus anywhere or anything like that. It’s but panta time I don’t know it’s always been a mix I like Smallpit parties. It’s just fun for the kids i.

10:00.60
Hailey
Yeah, yeah, but it’s also like I mean along the same lines I mean it’s not seasonal right now. But also I’ve like been in meetings where or awards where they’re like we don’t have a Halloween party. It is a fall festival because like we don’t.

10:17.26
Geoff Openshaw
I look because the thing’s like Pagan or something. Yeah.

10:19.47
Hailey
Don’s yeah and I’m like what are you kidding? Mormons love halloween sorry members of the church of Jesus christ larry say it’s love Halloween they love decorating their trunks and scaring people and doing fancy like haunted houses with smoke and all you know.

10:36.16
Geoff Openshaw
Oh yeah.

10:38.32
Hailey
Smokepog machines. So it’s just kind of funny when we pretend that we don’t love to you know, engage in Pagan rituals. Ah.

10:42.66
Geoff Openshaw
Who would not yeah why would you? Yeah, it’s like okay I mean it’s to I mean who care how? yeah Halloween’s a celtic thing and it’s great. It’s awesome. It’s wonderful. Everyone should love Halloween 1 of my fondest memories when I was a priest they did kind of they wanted to do like a spook they had to help like a whole ward Halloween party. But. And and they had us. We had 1 of those older buildings that yeah, got the got the cultural hall. We have the stage but ours was like a very legitimate you know higher stage. It actually had classrooms at the stage level off to in the wings if you’ve ever seen ones like that and then above the classrooms. There was storage big stagey area where back then you could do like.

11:07.46
Hailey
Aha.

11:11.65
Hailey
Yes, ahha. Ah yep, a full show. Yeah.

11:19.90
Geoff Openshaw
Legitimate productions of things something like that. So um I remember they asked us to do a spook alley as the priests which was just awesome and and we utilize both the rooms and this is the kind of thing where we’re like 16 and seventeen year old guys and so our every goal is just to terrorize everyone as much as humanly possible.

11:36.44
Hailey
Yes, yeah.

11:39.64
Geoff Openshaw
So like I went and bought a fog machine because I figured why not it would serve me well for many years we had a fog machine so and then when when when they went to the last room. It was dark until a strobe light turned on and 1 of the guys wore a freddy mask and at a chainsaw we we had a signal though if it was younger primary kids coming through. We had like a signal to say not do that and then we just kind of stand there and let him pass by but it was fantastic.

11:59.80
Hailey
Yes, hi that is so funny I think when I was a laurel back when we were laurels and we had laurel projects planning the Ward Halloween party. It was my laurel project That’s ah and we so I do remember we specifically assigned the priests.

12:12.14
Geoff Openshaw
See.

12:18.59
Hailey
To do the Spook alley on the stage.

12:19.30
Geoff Openshaw
When did the word Halloween party kind of give way to trunk or treat being the norm I don’t know if anyone who does word Halloween parties anymore. It’s It’s almost always just a trunk or treat. Maybe some kind of food might be part of it but I’ll never see it as a party party.

12:28.24
Hailey
Yeah I mean we we do it every year I think it still is called a fall festival. but but yeah definitely trunk or treat but we do games like in the rooms and but like couple years ago because I don’t think we had one last year um the fog machine set off the fire alarm. And then we all had to evacuate the building and start the chnkerchi early and wait for the fire to department. Get there. Well, that’s that’s what I know that’s still what we think we can’t figure out so this year they’re like no fog machines.

12:51.35
Geoff Openshaw
So I’m surprised the fog machine would set it off though because I mean they’re They’re not least quite right.

13:04.92
Hailey
You could use laser lights. Whatever but I don’t know I didn’t I didn’t give too much thought to it since I wasn’t in charge of that.

13:09.40
Geoff Openshaw
So I’m just gonna give my vlog machine to bring it off for the Christmas party this weekend just for no reason it’s gonna be great. No bill city but all right? Well everyone we hope you? We hope your ward Halloween party season is is going great I’m gonna dive into another story real quick. This would actually just broke tonight.

13:15.92
Hailey
Ah, just test it out. So.

13:28.60
Geoff Openshaw
So um I forgot we even put an article about it over This Week in Mormons. So as you know the ah you know the Salt lake temple’s being renovated. It’s been kind of hard to miss that 1 I would say if you’re a member of our of our faith considering president nelson spent time walking around at the last conference and gave us a video about it and stuff. So ah. Temple project started back in December of 2019 and just as a reminder. It is not just like a nice hey. Let’s clean up the temple thing it is I mean they are replacing all kinds of stuff I think this was born out of the need to seismically retrofit the temple and now they’ve used it as an opportunity to just do. Do a whole lot more to it but a big part of it is that I mean if you if you follow the church’s pages. They’ve done stuff like replaced all the trusses that support the roof in the temple with stronger ones that famously have dug out all the way down to the original foundation to try to install all this stuff. It’s a big undertaking. And then on but on part of that they also got rid of the existing annex they got rid of that chapel. All that stuff’s going to be redone and they’re going to redo the whole way. You access the temple and there’s going to be 2 baptisties and they’re changing the interior and they’re doing all kinds of stuff. Um, it was supposed to take about 4 years from the time they announced it which is I think a reasonable timeframe for the level of effort involved.

14:32.65
Hailey
Um, yeah.

14:38.61
Geoff Openshaw
Ah, but then just tonight the first presidency kind of quietly released a statement. The church has sort of an ongoing article about just like monthly updates on the temple and the first presidency pretty much just said as the temple project has progressed. We’ve learned a great deal about the condition of the temple and its surroundings which I’m assuming means not for the best based on what they tell us afterwards. Because they say yes, this is wonderful work being guided by the first presidency. But it’s now anticipated that the temple and its surroundings will be completed in 2025. So best case that could be like January twenty twenty five. So. It’s only thirteen months off the mark or it could be a full like 2 years later I don’t know but.

15:06.14
Hailey
Um, wow.

15:13.65
Hailey
Yeah, yeah, what does that mean the surroundings.

15:18.49
Geoff Openshaw
I mean they started they. They’ve started other projects that weren’t initially announced because things they didn’t so the first thing was um oh they’re redoing the plaza in between the church administration building and the church office building. You know they had that giant fountain and all that’s gone so they’re putting in this this beautiful around the world flags.

15:21.52
Hailey
Um, yeah.

15:30.52
Hailey
Um, yeah.

15:36.78
Hailey
Okay, nice.

15:38.80
Geoff Openshaw
Display and the idea here is the idea behind a lot of this is to improve sightlines to the temple itself because before that Pesky fountain if you were standing East of the fountain you couldn’t see the temple you saw a water effect I mean that’s no good. So so they’re they’re changing that.

15:49.57
Hailey
Oh right.

15:54.60
Geoff Openshaw
And then that was implant initially and then they’ve also recently torn down the North visitor center the 1 that had the christa statue in it which was not part of the original break. Yeah yeah, so that is also gone and they said that was also to enhance the sightlines to see the temple itself because all these other structures were blocking the view to it.

15:57.73
Hailey
Oh oh, really? Okay, oh.

16:09.48
Hailey
Um, okay, wow.

16:13.60
Geoff Openshaw
Apparently so ah I mean I assume they undertook those demolitions and they’re not replaced I mean the 1 they’re not replacing the visitor center with another building. They’re basically making giving it some kind of thoughtful contemplative garden type space. That’s not.

16:24.40
Hailey
Ah, right, right? So maybe just to have more grounds and less external buildings.

16:29.31
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, yeah, which is also why if you go to Temple Square right now for the the lights. It’s a little bit of a ah it’s not as expansive of an experience as it might have been. There’s there’s There’s just a. There’s a little wedge of area in Temple Square you can meet then some of the other buildings. So.

16:41.40
Hailey
You’re just walking through construction.

16:47.63
Geoff Openshaw
Anyway, so we they didn’t say much more about it or what they’ve learned that is you know the condition of the temple and its surroundings. They didn’t specify but for whatever reason now it’s going to take a little bit longer to get that Salt Lake Temple back online years longer long. That’s good. It could be.

16:58.55
Hailey
Wow. Well, it’s too bad that there’s no other temples in utah for people to go to. That’s the bad part only 25 or something I don’t know. But yeah.

17:04.81
Geoff Openshaw
I Mean what will they? what will they? What do they do? There’s so many we once wrote an art we once so we wrote an article once here at Twim. I think it was a joke like hey we need 3 more temples in Utah to get twenty temples. Nice round number and then that we’ve like blown past that Now. So I don’t know I don’t yeah so sorry so sorry Salt Lake people. You’ll just have to go to bountiful.

17:24.48
Hailey
Oh Wow No, it’s it’s great. Good job, Good job. Utah.

17:36.17
Geoff Openshaw
Or by the time it happens Taylorville or jordan river or ochre or the 1 in 2 lo will probably be done by the who knows that’s there kind of.

17:37.49
Hailey
Yeah. Yeah, that’ll be exciting though that will be an exciting day.

17:48.29
Geoff Openshaw
It’s gonna be a big deal and they they they kind of mentioned in the statement. They’re excited for when it comes back to open its doors to the public. They basically said that like and we know that’s goingnna happen. But of course it’ll be a big deal when they have the public open house for it’ll be the biggest open house since the 1 they’re gonna have out here when they finally do dc next year

17:53.74
Hailey
Um, oh yeah.

18:05.39
Hailey
Oh Wow Oh the D C Temple’s beautiful. Yeah.

18:05.88
Geoff Openshaw
We’ve had ours close for 4 years so we’re finally like.

18:11.78
Geoff Openshaw
It’s lovely and my favorite thing about it if you do a session unlike a lot of temples where there’s the there’s the aisle in the middle and then you separate by gender the aisles are on the sides like a moot like a movie theater there and so if you get there at the right time with your beloved. You can literally just sit right next to them.

18:18.81
Hailey
Yeah yep, aha you ye that’s great I Love that Yeah I have been to that temple.

18:29.77
Geoff Openshaw
Which which is just kind of fun I Hope they haven’t gotten rid of that I don’t see why they would. But it’s a fun little feature.

18:37.83
Hailey
Once it was a long time ago, but that will be exciting Well speaking of temples. Yeah, we have to talk about the Mesa Temple and everything that has been you know, upgraded in that area into the temple and all that.

18:41.59
Geoff Openshaw
It’s cool building all right? Yes, yes.

18:55.35
Geoff Openshaw
Oh yeah, over the weekend. Yeah, tell me more tell me more about this thing.

18:55.38
Hailey
Just got dedicated right. Ah, well I was just looking at some pictures my family lives in Gilbert and Mesa and they were excited when they got to go to the open house and so they were telling us how beautiful it is and my mother-in-law says it’s very beautiful I don’t know if it’s my taste but it’s Beautiful. You know, just ah.

19:16.64
Geoff Openshaw
What does that mean.

19:16.83
Hailey
So I don’t know what that means it makes me want to go I’m like can I have more detail but she’s like it was an interesting color palette I don’t know so I yeah it yeah inside I guess but um I was looking at pictures and I was like the or reading about the grounds.

19:23.51
Geoff Openshaw
And assuming mean the devil itself is a color or oh.

19:34.42
Hailey
And there’s like 3 hundred trees or something and I was like it’s like a little garden of versailles with the yeah, it’s the same. It’s basically the same like it’s the louragerie just in Mesa but.

19:40.17
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, it’s definitely that level. It’s definitely that level. Yeah, it’s so yeah, there’s a giant pond in the shape of a cross that covers.

19:54.80
Hailey
But yeah I thought it looked very nice and um I thought it’s very cool that they put the visitor center kind of across like you know a block or so away something to kind of. Yeah.

20:02.40
Geoff Openshaw
Next before it was just like right next to it I mean the upside to that was if you had needs like the visitor center was right next to the temple basically which maybe easier you know, like if you I don’t know if you had a a ceiling and people can go in or whatever you know people are watching kids you got a visitor center right there now. It’s good now. It’s just up.

20:11.30
Hailey
Yeah.

20:17.22
Hailey
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:21.13
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, other end of the street which is I think it could be Okay, okay.

20:22.99
Hailey
Yeah, they’ll probably be fine but but they had to have room too for they’re going to keep doing the pageants and like I mean Maya they just get everything.

20:26.12
Geoff Openshaw
I Hope so.

20:33.13
Geoff Openshaw
So does maya I see I should know this does mesa actually get to keep doing their their pageant. They’re 1 of the few right.

20:37.66
Hailey
Yeah, that’s what it said in the article I read Easter Pageant will be going strong which not everyone gets an Easter pageant. So.

20:45.55
Geoff Openshaw
What is behind some pagedants being canceled but other ones remaining I mean I know it’s because they viewed the mason 1 as a bit more localized and that’s part of it compared to something like hill comora which is very regional people come from all over to be involved in it come to it. A lot of people don’t I don’t think that I don’t know if the mea.

20:58.31
Hailey
Yeah.

21:02.67
Geoff Openshaw
Pageants have ever been viewed as 1 for which people like travel as a make I don’t know no no offense to the people who do I’m not I’m must and that thing i.

21:03.74
Hailey
I don’t I don’t know I’m sure it’s It’s like an annual tradition for lots of families. No yeah, no for sure. Maybe it’s like how many tickets you just kidding I don’t think they sell them but how many tickets you get reserved I don’t Know. So I Wonder is it? Do you think it’s a calling like to be the pageant master like you get called in like you’re going to be in charge of the pageant that would be a big job.

21:33.58
Geoff Openshaw
I don’t know it was um like last year we interviewed Meryl jensen the composer I don’t think he was involved in Mesa but he was involved like Hilcamora the anti- pageant and stuff and it was pretty interesting hearing about someone who like wrote all the music for those things and and and his.

21:39.46
Hailey
Aha. Um, ah ah yeah.

21:49.28
Geoff Openshaw
His direct work with salt lake to do that and like getting notes from apostles and having to shoot them down anyways. But a plug that 1 folks that’s a hilarious interview if you ever want to listen to it because it’s really funny to hear someone tell a story about how there’s like general authorities saying you need to have this this this in there and he’s like no.

21:52.36
Hailey
Is what.

22:04.59
Hailey
Ah.

22:06.86
Geoff Openshaw
No, we’re not doing that just just like that doesn’t work for this project I’m sorry I know you want this in there. But.

22:13.14
Hailey
Ah, that just gives a whole new meaning to selling your soul your heart. Ah because can you call it that if you’re giving things up for a first presidency

22:22.95
Geoff Openshaw
So so here’s 1 thing I like you noticed you know part of it wasn’t just the temple and moving the visitor’ center the church used this as a chance to invest more in the area and redevelop a lot of other parcels that the church already owned in the area around the mesa temple me the me temple was built.

22:33.88
Hailey
Um, yeah.

22:41.35
Geoff Openshaw
Ah, long time ago when meso was just this little outlier I mean phoenix was barely anything back then either. Um, it’s an older temple and as such older neighborhoods have kind of remained around it I’m not going to say run down necessarily. But if you’ve been there in the past you’ve noticed it’s like okay you know, but like.

22:44.79
Hailey
Yeah.

22:58.76
Geoff Openshaw
No judgment calls 1 way or the other but a lot of times our temples go into more tony neighborhoods but not the case with the mesa temple and so the church I think wanted to preserve the area around the temple and to provide benefit to the city invested in some mixed use developments. You know with retail and apartments even actually building some houses nearby a whole.

22:59.90
Hailey
Oh yeah.

23:07.79
Hailey
Um, yeah.

23:17.92
Geoff Openshaw
Number of different projects. There’s some people who um, who have met this with not as much enthusiasm because they think like why is the church. You know why is the church getting into all this kind of stuff. It’s this whole logic behind City Creek. Why are we doing all these.

23:23.98
Hailey
Oh.

23:30.85
Hailey
Um, yeah, ah.

23:34.50
Geoff Openshaw
My favorite thing though in the in the article is it says the City Creek Reserve the organization that invested this real estate arm worked with Scottsdale based Dale Gordon designed to plant the vibrant transit orientented neighborhood which features diverse residential unit sizes comfortably scaled buildings and here’s my favorite part. Mesa Authentic Architecture. What is Mesa authentic architecture I’ve been to me is it Mesa Authentic architecture just tract housing and and wall and walls like.

23:52.00
Hailey
Ah, okay I.

24:00.58
Hailey
I.

24:03.50
Geoff Openshaw
But ah or what architecture is unique to mesa in that sense that I don’t know the I don’t I’ve never known this I’m serious if I’m if I’m ignorant and yeah Southwestern architecture something very if they mean they tried to style it after the mesa temple.

24:09.24
Hailey
So it’s not like Arizona architecture or southwest it’s specifically mesa architecture. Well.

24:21.46
Geoff Openshaw
Then? Okay, so that’s like okay it that’s like temple of solomon architecture then I don’t know who’s going to want to live in those townhouses but okay, very curious. what what mesa authentic architecture Meanss especially as opposed to what is what is it authenticic architecture for mesa I mean what does that mean is it is it east mesa or west mesa because we know there’s very different worlds.

24:25.24
Hailey
Um, yeah, right.

24:37.49
Hailey
Oh oh my gosh. Oh man I Just know I’ve gone to some really good taco places So I don’t know I need to brush up on my Mesa architecture.

24:40.33
Geoff Openshaw
Different income brackets I don’t know what this means but you know.

24:49.50
Geoff Openshaw
No, apparently we all do because it’s a thing. It’s studied at all the greatest schools. Oh man, oh boy So it anyways good times there. Glad to see that happening I’m glad for the te air Now it’s dedicated and.

24:53.56
Hailey
Ah, okay, ah and I’ve just been thinking about my stomach this whole time. Okay.

25:06.48
Hailey
Um, yeah.

25:08.70
Geoff Openshaw
Times for all them I’ll use this chance by the way to plug. Um, since we’re on temples. We’ve been temping a bit might little stick it with the temples. We have our chance to vote for temple of the year up at this week at mormons dot com our boy corey wrote in a great post there. A lot of temple renderings released in 2021 not the most. But.

25:13.94
Hailey
And then.

25:28.54
Geoff Openshaw
25 new temple designs came out in the calendar year twenty twenty 1 That’s a lot that’s a whole lot of temple designs and you can vote on all of them across categories such as best appeal to local heritage like which 1 embraces authentic regional architecture for example, like Mesa. Best.

25:29.67
Hailey
Um, Wow yeah.

25:44.00
Hailey
Okay, okay.

25:48.36
Geoff Openshaw
Ah, modern, neoclassical contemporary design modest is hottest most deserved temple best in the us best in latin america best in Eastern hemisphere best single story best multistory and then best temple of the year all these categories simple google voting form and you can see the pictures of every single temple on our website if you go.

25:58.45
Hailey
Um, wow. yeah yeah I have to say I looked through the pictures and I I really I’m from colorado but you know so I’m biased but I did think the grand junction 1 looked pretty.

26:06.79
Geoff Openshaw
Here. What do you got.

26:17.46
Hailey
Pretty nice I they have like the little Triangle roof thing on top I don’t know that was pretty cool I’d probably vote for that. Yeah, it kind of you know, took me by Surprise I was like ok that’s different I haven’t seen that Well, there’s like.

26:23.58
Geoff Openshaw
I’ve got to see I’m I’m looking at him right now I forgot try to find Grand Junction again.

26:31.68
Geoff Openshaw
There’s a bunch of temples that look a lot like that 1 and.

26:35.95
Hailey
A lot have the little like how do you say cup copla the round. Um, but first but this 1 has a triangle.

26:38.23
Geoff Openshaw
I Steeple a stipular stple I’m I’m not going to help you I’m just gonna enjoy watching. Oh yeah, there’s great. There’s grand ju yeah, a coppi light. Yeah I like that I can dig it. Well I think it’s I think we call those pyramids haley when the triangleles. Ah, 3 hree-dimenal and join at different sides to make a point you think I like that.

26:58.90
Hailey
Ah I I’m going to read all about architecture all week and how does pronounce cupola cupola pula with scalcapula sco let’s.

27:14.12
Geoff Openshaw
Scapula I like scal. It’s a cute. It’s a cupulla right? Cupulla Cupulla Cupulla I’m looking at the phonetic spelling for it and it’s so it’s see now you got me doubting myself. You know it’s like when you.

27:15.44
Hailey
Ah I know how to spell it. Ah. Sure.

27:28.93
Hailey
Like sorry noise just yes, yes, no, my daughter who’s 21 she’s very cute. She’s read so many books over here yearss but even at age 21 every once while she’ll come out with a word that she uses it correctly, but she pronouncs correctly.

27:31.75
Geoff Openshaw
You know you see a word too many times and it starts to look weird. Yes, so.

27:48.60
Hailey
And it’s just so cute and we love to correct her. Oh.

27:48.76
Geoff Openshaw
Like every member of the church who says there is a law irrevocably decreed in heaven. That’s 1 of those words just just stay all up folks. The word is is irrevocably. That’s how we pronounce that word but we all say irevo. It’s just 1 of those things.

28:00.48
Hailey
Um, irrevocably irrevocably? yeah yeah, interesting.

28:06.67
Geoff Openshaw
1 of the. Yeah I once tried I was actually looking into writing an article for the the site about like words Mormons use incorrectly. But I really like thought of like 3 or four I didn’t think it was enough to merit an entire exploration of those things. Um, So yeah, the the the yeah.

28:15.60
Hailey
Ah.

28:22.62
Hailey
Yeah, so.

28:28.53
Geoff Openshaw
Grand junction 1 ne’s I that 1 ne’s I I can dig that um I like the I like the belo onage or gente brazil temple little. It’s kind of like a like a mini cardston or meridian idaho looks like a little minime version of that everyone knows I’m biased about the ubal into california temple because that is my the len that is that is.

28:29.37
Hailey
Um, yeah, it’s different. Yeah, oh.

28:47.15
Geoff Openshaw
My land but I genuine for all the temples that appear to be following that ah kind of similar floor plan. You can kind of tell in the pictures. They’re all kind of like you can tell grand junction on your blender are kind of the same thing but your Belinda has some cool designs to it and.

28:47.64
Hailey
That’s where you hail from.

29:02.66
Hailey
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

29:03.52
Geoff Openshaw
You know there’s some good ones there. So go vote on it folks I Also I can dig the linden temple hey there How do you feel about the Provo Temple radio.

29:09.43
Hailey
Yeah I was just going to say there’s definitely been controversy because I see a lot of I used to live like near there and I’ve seen. In fact, we lived right behind the mtc for a bit and we’d see people drive in and to drop off things over the fence like Taco bell pizza hut.

29:28.10
Geoff Openshaw
Ah, once ah when I went to the mtc. My family was still in town and they actually went and picked up Del Taco but they dropped it off at then like the you could drop you could do this legitimately but they dropped it off in the front or wherever and it goes to the mail and they goes to the mail room but they didn’t get it to me in time. So I didn’t pick.

29:29.40
Hailey
Because we lived right by the F of.

29:37.17
Hailey
Aha.

29:40.61
Hailey
Oh yeah, oh no, not oh no see That’s why people had to go to the pack fence.

29:47.55
Geoff Openshaw
So I got it like doing it 2 days later. There’s just like del taco sitting in a bag I didn’t and and my building was even right next to the back fence now that I mean oh what it here.

29:57.94
Hailey
Oh My gosh. Oh well missed opportunity. But yeah, no so I’ve seen lots of my friends. Ah well a lot of artists also like kind of live in that area. It’s I don’t know just Lds artists and so I think some of them are kind of upset that they’re kind of. Just um, turning away from that kind of Postmodern Era look that that temple represented but then I’m sure lots of people are happy because they didn’t like it. So yeah, it’s an interesting.

30:31.82
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, the the word on the street from many is not that this is like about oh it’s ugly, let’s fix it. Let’s do something like that because it’s or let’s make it bigger because it’s actually 1 of the biggest temples in the church there’s not much more you can do to increase the number of people who can use it what I’ve heard though is that because the temple sits on a fault line.

30:34.24
Hailey
I Don’t know.

30:42.70
Hailey
Really yeah.

30:51.00
Geoff Openshaw
It it was retro. It had some seismic work done like 5 to 7 years ago but people in the know this is all anecdotal. This is second hand for me too. But many have said that it’s basically like if there was a decent earthquake. The temple would just pancake on itself and they can only do so much to do it without.

30:54.28
Hailey
Um, oh okay.

31:05.41
Hailey
Um, oh yeah, right? yeah.

31:10.80
Geoff Openshaw
Without going to the lengths they’re going to Salt Lake like really digging in there and redoing the whole thing and doing crazy work to me and they probably at some point said look. It’s a famous building but it’s not as historic as Salt Lake where it merits like this level of attention. So it’s easier to tear it down and start over that’s kind of what I’m but then.

31:21.16
Hailey
Um, yeah, okay.

31:27.69
Geoff Openshaw
But it is a shame I think that they’re going to start over with what is just kind of like ah, another blandly modern temple design. That’s just that lens and all the rest.

31:31.45
Hailey
Right? Yeah, they just kind of all have the same you know, general look which I guess you know if I mean it’s it’ll be recognizable for people in Provo who don’t know what an healthiest temple looks like.

31:40.58
Geoff Openshaw
Will it I’m convinced I’m convinced though if you if you took away like the backdrop from the provo temple and some of the other designs you wouldn’t know which 1 is which I think you’ll only be able to identify provo in a pinch.

31:54.70
Hailey
Um, yeah, exactly? Yeah yeah I don’t know it. It will be weird. It will be weird. Having lived in that area and driven by it just thousands of times. It will be a little strange. But yeah.

31:56.80
Geoff Openshaw
Because of Rock Canyon behind it because that’s very distinct That’s very distinctive but otherwise I don’t know.

32:06.95
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, yeah, yeah there we go. Um, all right. It’s your turn. Yeah I’m I mean it means if you want to talk about something you can.

32:12.43
Hailey
Oh well, it’s my turn all right? Ah well yeah I mean I I really want to talk about the tabernacle choir and their donation to the actors fund a hundred thousand dollars.

32:29.52
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, it’s cool.

32:31.39
Hailey
What it was I think that is so great and over the years they have benefited so much from all of the talented I mean just huge stars that have come to perform with them and I think it’s great that they’re supporting the arts that way and I think it’s. It’s a fund that goes to help you know, um, not the people who aren’t the big stars right now but people who need a little bit more of a leg up and um I mean if we as a church and as a culture aren’t encouraging artists.

32:54.30
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah.

33:07.23
Hailey
Then I think that’s kind of actually hypocritical against what we stand for which you know we support creativity and the arts and um, yeah, all of those good things that.

33:17.86
Geoff Openshaw
Well, what is the like what does the actors fund exactly though. Why is this significant What does this mean.

33:23.72
Hailey
Um, well I I mean I mean it just means that you know it’s I Actually don’t know like as everything that it goes to her. But for from what I read it helps um actors. That you know like apply to get aid I don’t know.

33:49.67
Geoff Openshaw
Okay, in the time and in the time you stammered through that I am going on ski but the ah no, they’re a five 1 c 3 charitable organization just like our church. Go figure that support. Yeah.

34:00.19
Hailey
Okay.

34:03.39
Geoff Openshaw
Supports performers and behind the scenes workers in performing arts and entertainment I’ve heard they that they provide like direct assistance to people as you know, ah covid has not been kind on actors I mean a lot of these people who depend on these sorts of things for their livelihood especially in the first year in 2020 I mean everything shut down like imagine if you’re imagine imagine if you’re a.

34:18.63
Hailey
Right.

34:22.90
Geoff Openshaw
Ah, theater worker actor or worker they’re like all right, there’s nothing to do. We can’t do any shows for ten months like that’s it like what else? do you do you know and so ah, the fund is to help actors who are in need of help and provide services to them.

34:23.88
Hailey
Um, yeah.

34:34.23
Hailey
Yes, and that is what I yeah that is what I read it provides aid to struggling entertainment professionals. Um, and I I.

34:42.19
Geoff Openshaw
Maybe that’s what so when you say it like that. Maybe that’s why some people are like really were doing this like struggling actors. We’re just giving them money right.

34:50.63
Hailey
No, but it’s I mean so many of them were devastated by the pandemic I mean that they couldn’t even do that during Twenty Twenty I mean it was just I mean so many jobs that were just.

34:56.13
Geoff Openshaw
Go be a waiter pitch me your screenplay during your shift isn’t that what the I know.

35:10.50
Hailey
Gone for such a long time so desperately needed for sure and what I didn’t realize is that the church is giving machines in um, New York They also accepted donations to the actors fund. Yeah.

35:18.77
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, and I didn’t know that was part of it either until I read this article. Do you think that I figured it was all just kind of uniform giving machines. You know, buy someone a goat or stuff like that. But.

35:29.50
Hailey
I Think it is kind of different for different areas. Maybe or I don’t know because.

35:32.52
Geoff Openshaw
Do you think the 1 in Nashville is supporting some kind of nonprofit devoted to musicians I wonder.

35:37.36
Hailey
I Wish it were as I would go there to see if it was no, we somebody needs to answer that question because I would love to know that.

35:49.89
Geoff Openshaw
What is cool is here is and and the 1 they presented it to is brian stokes mitchell who’s he’s a very talented actor and singer. He’s performed at the tabernacle choir and this goes more into detail about his actual history with them because it’s easy to see like someone performs at the tabernac require and that’s like cool we we got it was a get. We got him. And then maybe it built upon that. But it seems he’s been involved with them for going back many many years long before even his concert with them in the past couple of years which is great to see I mean and he’s a I’m I’m trying to think what anybody would know him in.

36:09.79
Hailey
And her.

36:20.60
Geoff Openshaw
Um, and as far as more mainstream entertainment like we were talking before he was on fraser playing fraser’s nemesis neighbor cam winston if you ever seen that um he was also on a fresh prince. Yeah, he played the 1 that was going to be Hillary’s fiancee the the terrible newscaster. Yeah.

36:24.98
Hailey
Um, he was in a was he ok. Oh wow no I did not see him I knew him from there was a Broadway musical called ragtime that he started and I you know used to listen to that soundtrack years ago I mean his voice is amazing and he was in that with audrey mcdonald. Which um, yeah, who has that’s right and who you know has performed in utah and yeah, so yeah, um, very talented guy and I heard that you know Kristen chenwith also enjoyed her.

36:54.33
Geoff Openshaw
Somebody who is married to will swenson. This is like oh my god.

37:11.74
Hailey
Time performing with the choir so that’s fun because everybody loves kristen.

37:14.11
Geoff Openshaw
So Everyone’s having a good time. Ah, yes, well because because she knew us she was changed forget and that’s that’s what they say. That’s what they say ah all right? So kind of a quick 1 here.

37:25.30
Hailey
Um, yes, that’s what they say so.

37:33.83
Geoff Openshaw
New York Times is weighted into the soda Wars people. This isn’t like directly latter-day saints but it’s it’s Mormon corridor enough and the article kind of talks about that So profile here in the New York Times essentially about the proliferation of that.

37:39.10
Hailey
Yes, so.

37:49.17
Geoff Openshaw
The the soda places all around the innermo west you know the swigs the so delicious. There’s a bunch of other ones I can’t even remember I was I always pick on those 2 but there’s there’s fiz. There’s.

37:57.77
Hailey
Fiz.

38:00.62
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah there’s the bunch of brands that do this and obviously we can make jokes all day long about how because we don’t consume alcohol and stuff like that sugar is absolutely our vice as as a culture which is manifested by the fact that you get a soda with then more sugared flavoring added to it. And you get a sugar cookie at the same time and that’s great I’m not in a place to judge. My house is currently like a holiday party like there’s just like platters of of cookies and mintce and things just sitting around because of christmas and I’m oding on the regular. But um, it’s kind of fun to read this to get sort of the context about.

38:18.21
Hailey
Yeah, so.

38:24.70
Hailey
Um, oh yeah.

38:36.70
Geoff Openshaw
Why this exists in the intermountain west the the Mormon quarter but also how it’s expanded and some of the the people who run these companies have said people assume this would kind of just be a mormon thing latter day saint thing but they’ve opened shops outside of those belts and they’re still doing well I do wonder if there’s a little bit of hubris though when they basically are saying that hey.

38:44.50
Hailey
Yeah.

38:56.26
Geoff Openshaw
Look how Starbucks started and like we are they essentially say like we’re going to take this to a starbucks level. There’s just going to be soda everywhere.

38:56.70
Hailey
I Saw that yeah I’m like. So no, they they have not met. They have not met many Colorado because you try to get a call person in Colorado to drink soda and they’re like I’m sorry what I’m sorry what soda with what is ah.

39:17.63
Geoff Openshaw
Oh come off from the people who gave us quiznos really really? Haley.

39:21.81
Hailey
Um, no I mean they’re they’re They’re not going to drink that that’s that’s not good for you. My they’re um, all about their but they you they’ve got to stay in peak you know form just excellent health and so.

39:28.90
Geoff Openshaw
You You also get you Also give Mr potle so that in fairness I mean.

39:40.16
Hailey
We do have 1 soda shop though and it was it’s about twenty minutes away from me and it was started by a guy who’s not lds but he had visited utah and was like this is a cool idea so he set up this little place. It’s called sip and I mean I go there every once in a while and he is just so happy to talk to me because he. He knows that I know all the soda shops in utah he’s like tell me what what treats do they have right now and he’s like what cookies do they have and I’m like and he’s like my cookies aren’t as good as theirs I’m like no, they’re really not He’s like I don’t what should I sell like what do you think I need and I’m like I I don’t know like he’s really wants to keep up with these.

40:04.16
Geoff Openshaw
You’re 1 of them.

40:17.82
Geoff Openshaw
No, what you do is you you say I’ll tell you for twenty percent equity I’ll let you what.

40:19.77
Hailey
Utah So right? but I feel kind of bad because I’m like there’s no way this guy is just killing it in Colorado Soda shop. So I hope I hope all the Lds people are coming out to go support him. But.

40:35.90
Geoff Openshaw
Um, mean maybe he’d do better like would he do better in the Springs or pudlo you think he might do better. You know.

40:38.36
Hailey
Oh yeah, maybe in the article it said there was a phz out here I in Colorado I need to look up where that is because I have not heard about that but it might be the springs.

40:46.75
Geoff Openshaw
Obviously I mean I’ve only but I’ve only been to 1 of these types of places I went to it the soda delicious and provo once like like 5 years ago and that was it but dirty doctor pepper was delightful Dr. pepper with with horchata mixed with it actually not not the worst combination.

40:53.19
Hailey
Um, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh nice. Yeah I like I do like the diet doctor pepper with coconut and raspberry puree that.

41:05.76
Geoff Openshaw
And you actually get into it.

41:11.93
Geoff Openshaw
It’s It’s actual raspberry puree not raspberry syrup a puree raspberry puree.

41:12.90
Hailey
An excellent ah raspberry puree. It’s delicious. That’s yeah, actually my friends and I were talking about this the other day were like how why wouldn’t you just stay at home and make the drink yourself. But I think it becomes a sort of this like.

41:32.51
Geoff Openshaw
It Oh it’s a hot. Yeah yeah.

41:32.75
Hailey
It’s like a ritual of like leaving the house and like going you know going out and this it just feels like you’re rewarding yourself for something or just like if you know if you you treat yourself by going to wait in line for an hour every time I’m in Utah I get so frustrated because sometimes I’m like I just need to.

41:41.55
Geoff Openshaw
Treat yourself? yeah.

41:52.37
Hailey
Quick soda. You know as I’m running around and and then I go and like can I find 1 that doesn’t have a line that’s forty five minutes I just don’t have time for that.

41:59.42
Geoff Openshaw
I wonder if I’d like if I were in the market if I would fall victim to this a lot I don’t I don’t drink as much soda as I used to. But if I ever am like peckish for 1 though for me, it’s just go to Mcdonald’s because it’s a buck give me ah give me a Dr. pepper for a dollar I’m done. It’s great. It’s all I need.

42:11.39
Hailey
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it’s like the whole thing. It’s the styrofoam cup. It’s the pebble ice. It’s the fresh lime I mean it’s.

42:15.73
Geoff Openshaw
But if there was 1 of these up the street as well would I maybe say oh yeah, you know, but but.

42:23.45
Geoff Openshaw
So so they’re really environmentally conscious with all their styrofoam I appreciate everything they’re doing and we’re going to find out somehow the pebble ice is also bad for the environment I don’t know how.

42:28.78
Hailey
I know no, it’s it’s utah we don’t wear masks and we love Styroco I don’t know.

42:41.43
Geoff Openshaw
Producing and involves more c o 2 emissions I don’t know what it is but something.

42:41.69
Hailey
I know and you can even buy your own pebble ice machines just on line. So hi. Oh.

42:48.61
Geoff Openshaw
They’re expensive but I do I’ll agree pebble ice is the best eyes for draks I Mean there’s no argument Cafe Rio Ice Very good ice. They know what they’re doing. They know what they’re doing.

42:54.12
Hailey
Yeah, no I looked into those pebble ice machines I’m like no, that’s buck’s too rich for my blood. Yeah I don’t know maybe in the summer maybe when I actually want to have pe ice.

43:02.56
Geoff Openshaw
I’ll come on. You could you? You could ask forever. It’s Chris Christmas is coming daily Christmas is here.

43:11.41
Geoff Openshaw
You you can get 1 You’ll start a whole like thing out of your garage. All all the ladies will come over. It’s gonna be this whole thing and like we should have we should have we should have the release society activity at Haley’s house because she has the pebble ice machine. So that’s what yeah.

43:13.24
Hailey
I Don’t know.

43:18.55
Hailey
Ah I’ll go Yeah I’ll drive and ask the guy hear his secrets. Oh yeah, it would kill for sure for sure.

43:32.77
Geoff Openshaw
I’ll throw a couple quick mentions at you then while we’re while we’re rolling here rwanda a country and most of us in the west probably think of when we think of hotel rwanda the don chito film which was up which was about the rwandda genocide which is a horrible horrible dark Mark part of world history. Um.

43:34.57
Hailey
Okay. Um, yep, Don cheadle. Yes.

43:50.25
Geoff Openshaw
Rwanda has not had its own mission and so the church has actually announced a couple new missions recently which they don’t always do kind of this time of year but they announced on december tenth that the Rwanda kagali kagali’s the capital mission will be created in Rwanda it’s actually rwanda itself is actually split between 3 different missions right now which is kind of interesting. So it’s split between the.

44:02.46
Hailey
Um, yeah.

44:09.99
Geoff Openshaw
Democratic republic republic of the congo kinshasa east that’s a mouthful democratic republic of the congo lubumbashi and the Uganda kampala mission. Um I don’t know if that’s like a hutu and tutsi like. Trying to split them in that sense into different missions and now they’ll make him 1 I don’t know. But either way they’re gonna have their own mission. There. New mission president will be announced in January I’m assuming the mission won’t let me make sure I don’t miss this? Yeah, it’ll open in July because that’s when they always do rotations for mission presidents and missions and stuff like that. So yeah.

44:34.11
Hailey
Um, yeah, and it’s the thirty ninth mission in Africa that’s pretty cool I think that’s awesome. Yeah, um.

44:43.31
Geoff Openshaw
Africa is a a busy place for the work right now I think that’s a good sign Either way I mean usually if you’re both and Rwanda Ron is very densely populated but geographically, it’s not very big. So if you have if they’re saying it merits being its own mission that means the work might be going somewhere there So that’s a.

44:53.59
Hailey
Yeah.

44:58.53
Hailey
Yeah, yeah.

45:01.65
Geoff Openshaw
Great thing. So good for them. Very excited. They’ve also just so you know there’s let’s see 8 new missions. Well yeah, cause they announced the lae mission and on december third they’re gonna have a separate mission in Hawaii now just on the North shore I guess and.

45:16.15
Hailey
Oh wow.

45:19.37
Geoff Openshaw
And then the last time they opened some a couple new ones elsewhere a handful of them were in africa ethiopia got its own mission in addis ababa mozambique barra mission tanzania a handful of other places have had some new missions in recent years so good to see especially since the work you know, kind of slowed up a little bit during the Covid times. So.

45:27.73
Hailey
Um, yeah, um, yeah I I was actually going to ask you speaking of missions. Um, so when you did did you serve an ldies mission.

45:43.39
Geoff Openshaw
So I sure did that’s why I was telling you all about the mtc in Deltaco a little bit ago. Yeah, no yeah, some people some people stuff I admit I made I made it the full 2 years ha okay

45:46.84
Hailey
Oh yeah, that’s right, That’s right? Well you know sometimes people don’t make it fast Cmtc I don’t know I don’t know the statistics. Okay, well, that’s what I wanted to know move on. No I Just kidding. Um, no, but um, did you like I was fast.

46:00.66
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, yes, I’m moving I’m moving.

46:05.69
Hailey
And by this because reading about the new um directory where you can communicate with your mission president in Lds is it in member tools. Um, that just I didn’t serve an lds mission. So is that like a thing where after your mission you’re just kind of like oh.

46:13.31
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, the yeah.

46:23.17
Hailey
I Wonder whatever happened my mission president and like I mean you have reunions and stuff but you’re not you don’t really have the ability to keep in touch is that I don’t know I thought that was interesting.

46:26.36
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah.

46:34.91
Geoff Openshaw
It’s a mix I think this is cool. They’ve done this too I it feels a needat I mean I would say for the most part there’s been a lot of there’s like third party services that have been around for a very long time you know random mission sites owned by enterprising latterday saints to keep people in touch and try to get you to make an account and all this Facebook’s obviously played a big.

46:46.50
Hailey
But yeah Facebook yeah.

46:51.22
Geoff Openshaw
Ah, big role in that there are lots of mission groups and I’ve seen mission presidents interact on there even though they’re not all on Facebook but some are and it’s a great way to keep in touch but not everyone’s on that either but not. Everyone’s also on member tools but at the very least if you have like you know.

46:59.92
Hailey
Um, yeah.

47:09.21
Geoff Openshaw
If you’re like a member of the church. You have the ability to be on there. But yeah from what I’ve seen this. It’s kind of cool. It’s opt in but so it’s a little bit separate from the regular information you share but you can essentially you can log in and opt to share your information with your mission president and so I’m assuming mission presidents Even after they’re released there.

47:10.51
Hailey
Um, yeah, yeah.

47:28.51
Geoff Openshaw
They have and the backend the access table they will forever have the ability to kind like pull up another setting in there that says like hey am I Missionaries whatever it is and actually keep in touch with them and yeah for reunions or you know, general harassment. Whatever they’re looking to do I guess that’s much.

47:40.17
Hailey
yeah yeah I know and I wonder is it is like 1 of the ideas like just to kind of keep tabs on people since maybe there are more you know people starting to kind of leave at some point I don’t know.

47:57.20
Geoff Openshaw
So you wonder if this is actually sort of a defensive a proactive defense move. There’s nothing wrong with that I think we do a lot of things in the church that are to try to kind of like get ahead of stuff.

47:59.12
Hailey
I was wondering about that.

48:07.27
Hailey
Ah, retention. Yeah no I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that I just when I saw it that was kind of 1 of the first things that popped into my head you know I’m sure those mission presidents you know like wonder what happens to these young men and women after they leave their care.

48:23.38
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah I mean the nice thing is like yeah you have to agree to do it on your end. So if you’re in a place where you’re not as involved in church and and the the thing I appreciated is the church’s own article about this interviewed some former mission presidents.

48:27.30
Hailey
Yeah.

48:38.45
Geoff Openshaw
Spoke frankly about that so it wasn’t all just like sun and roses and stuff like that like they’re like yeah we’ve got like you know there’s even if they’ve like left the faith and they’re not involved anymore like sure if we have a chance to let them know we love them and we care about them. Um, and we all look back fondly on these times together. Hopefully.

48:40.29
Hailey
Um, ah.

48:48.48
Hailey
Um, yeah.

48:55.21
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, I’m grateful for it when I finished my mission you know Facebook wasn’t a thing didn’t exist at the time or anything like that and so it was a bit harder to kind of keep up with what was going on I think social media has made that easier and it’s it’s cool to have this too. Why not I mean my mission President’s in the seventy now so it’s like really easy to get in touch with him.

48:56.53
Hailey
Um, yeah.

49:04.59
Hailey
Um, yeah, that is cool. Um, ah my husband’s ah former Mission President is um, Elder Raz Band. So.

49:14.20
Geoff Openshaw
You know.

49:18.62
Geoff Openshaw
Did he talk a lot about religious freedom because that seems to be all at a Rasb band speaks about nowadays I don’t know what happened on the mission was it all like where where where was this. Okay.

49:22.64
Hailey
I Don’t know I should ask him. But. It was it um up Ah New York North Yeah No I think it’s like yeah it like New York City like bronx like the city. Yeah bronx and then Connecticut So. It’s like total opposites.

49:36.84
Geoff Openshaw
Hanging out in the like adirondacks or like new york city North so it’s like it’s like the bronx and white plains. Okay, yeah.

49:47.60
Geoff Openshaw
Okay, that’s cool. That’s cool. Yeah, good times. Well let’s see here in our waning moments I’ve got another quick 1 here that just cracked me up. Um, good on you lds living for grabbing this anybody could have but a viral tiktok.

49:49.28
Hailey
Yeah, yeah.

49:58.76
Hailey
Yeah, good.

50:06.79
Geoff Openshaw
Chose an Amazon worker posing as a latter-day Saint Missionary I’m trying to make sure I understand the yeah I don’t know if they did this like intentionally or what happened, but what it is someone ordered some stuff on Amazon and should put a note on the door I think that said like make sure to hide the package from the husband.

50:20.68
Hailey
Well in the video. It’s her welcome Matt it says hide packages. It’s it says hide packages from husband. So then again I don’t know if like he just because that I mean you could buy that anywhere right? So that’s not so it’s like he’s like.

50:25.58
Geoff Openshaw
Oh yeah I see that now. Okay, yeah, yes.

50:40.21
Hailey
He took it literally and went tied the package and got caught.

50:41.46
Geoff Openshaw
Yes, and so and so it goes to doorbell camera footage. You know from a ring or a nest or something like that. Um, he notices the doormat tries to hide it and then he’s about to leave then her husband the the husband opens the door and just says like is out of package and the.

50:56.46
Hailey
Do you have a package. Yeah.

51:00.82
Geoff Openshaw
Guy just turns around and just says ah no no no I ah I have a message about the restored gospel of Jesus christ and then the video cuts off and i’t know what else happened after that which is a bit which is a bit unfortunate. It’s ticktock I just want to know about this driver is he a member of the church because that’s.

51:17.67
Hailey
Yeah, yeah, exactly no 1 could just you know pull that out and just have that prepared unless someone’s approached him with that and it stuck in his head.

51:20.38
Geoff Openshaw
Very That’s very specific phrasing. You have to know the lingo to say it like that.

51:37.44
Hailey
You know I mean that talk about planting a seed.

51:39.52
Geoff Openshaw
I wonder why it says in the post Amazon has my back hashtag green screenen video I’m sure that’s some tiktok thing this doesn’t this isn’t green screen I don’t know what that means this I don’t do the tiktok. Either way.

51:48.42
Hailey
Ah I don’t either I don’t know enough about ticktock to be honest, but yeah I mean it’s I Just think I think the whole thing is funny. He’s clearly wearing like I I don’t know a vast it’ like no.

51:57.27
Geoff Openshaw
Um.

52:02.37
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, yeah.

52:07.81
Hailey
But good for him for for going for it. Oh.

52:08.82
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, oh there’s a part 2 apparently man I’m gonna I just why went to the? ah.

52:18.20
Hailey
And what if the guy had said well yes I want to hear about that because you know the first rule of improv yes, and um, that’s true.

52:19.16
Geoff Openshaw
So so.

52:29.18
Geoff Openshaw
I Unless it’s all staged might all be staged I don’t want to be so cynical but I live in a world where maybe everything is staged sad. Okay, well oh give us something happier.

52:37.00
Hailey
It could be ah that’s true. That’s true. Don’t want to think about that. Um ah Tom christopherson posted on Facebook that um he is as decided he is. Going to start dating which I thought first of all was um, you know that could be a very private thing and yet he posts that public out Publicly on Facebook um, and as someone who a lot of people or you know members in the lgbtq plus.

52:58.13
Geoff Openshaw
Okay.

53:15.23
Hailey
Community look to um I thought that that was interesting that he made that public so that you know this is what I’m choosing to do for myself and my happiness and I’m going to ah attempt to do this within like my within the standards of the church.

53:23.36
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, yeah.

53:34.44
Hailey
So um I think that’s great. No I’ve listened to him on several I’ve listened to several interviews with him and read things but not his book.

53:34.47
Geoff Openshaw
So did you ever read his book his book by any chance. Good. It’s it. I mean if you I imagine his interviews covered a lot of the Book. You know his general story how you know and you know of course he’s the brother of elder detadris operason of the corm of the Twelfth which I love in the book because he speaks you know much as you would imagine much more familiarly with.

53:52.17
Hailey
D Todd yep.

54:01.77
Geoff Openshaw
Just talks about like yeah well todd came over and then you know like I talked but the the book’s definitely definitely worth a read I remember 1 part that I thought was really interesting I think it was dealing with kind of prop 8 when that was going down in California and like.

54:08.38
Hailey
Um, okay yeah.

54:17.83
Geoff Openshaw
His brother was and like his first thought was simply like how do I navigate this with my brother being who he is and like he was and credit to elder christoperson as well for I’m assuming approving being you know this open about personal communication between the 2 of them. But I think it was pretty good. But yeah Tom as he came back to the church. He basically just.

54:30.50
Hailey
Yeah.

54:36.33
Hailey
Um, yeah, um.

54:36.65
Geoff Openshaw
Became essentially celibate which I think is 1 of those hard choices. A lot of gay members of the church make or they feel like they have to make and I don’t I don’t know what that’s like I’m not in those in those shoes. Um, but that’s obviously not an easy thing if you feel like yeah I care about the gospel and it means I’m going to forego companionship so that I can. Be involved in the church you know and and be in full communion for choose an expression. We don’t really use in our church but and I don’t know where like the quote unquote line is like he stresses like he said he’s gonna he wants to choose to keep the law of chastity and all that I don’t want I don’t know if yeah.

54:59.23
Hailey
Yeah.

55:07.58
Hailey
Um, yeah, as any single member would do. Yeah.

55:13.70
Geoff Openshaw
But like seeing know single members will hold hands and make out and stuff is that is that Kosher for the Lg Bt Q Saints among us I don’t think anyone’s fully spelled that out or not I don’t know I don’t have those answers but I think you just got to kind of be prayerful about it. So yeah.

55:24.00
Hailey
Um, yeah I know it probably varies from bishop to bishop and state to state Quite honestly I don’t know. Yeah.

55:33.85
Geoff Openshaw
So good for Tom real quick here I think very interesting article that we could spend a lot of time on but we’re not going to but the vicious 1 hundred and fifty year rivalry between utah’s 2 biggest newspapers so good on the washington post for deciding to write.

55:47.80
Hailey
Oh yeah.

55:52.34
Geoff Openshaw
Ah, deep dive breakdown of the desret the rivalry between the dest news and the Salt lake tribune the genesis of both papers why they exist and sort of I mean people get on the tribs case a locks they think it is an anti Latterday saint rag oftentimes I think sometimes it does have you. Sometimes it goes out of its way to be that way but at the same time I think the tribune also produces some like really good journalism. That’s very important for us as latter-day saints to to consider different points of view and and other things like the the entire sexual abuse scandals at Byyu would not have come to light. We’re not for the trib’s reporting. For example.

56:18.29
Hailey
Um, yeah.

56:30.65
Geoff Openshaw
And de news is not gonna do that. They’re just not. They’re just not gonna do that. That’s not their lane right? Yeah, but anyway so it’s um, it’s kind of fascinating to go man I Just like there’s so much the history I didn’t know about um.

56:32.70
Hailey
Right? Yeah church owned. Yeah church. Yeah entities.

56:44.34
Hailey
Save.

56:48.29
Geoff Openshaw
Like when you when you really realize Obviously how much the press factors into our history of course going all the way back to Joseph Smith for destroying the printing press for the nabu expositor which is essentially what led to the martyrdom which like this we we know this but literally seeing that it was disaffected members of the church. And Salt Lake who went on to start what became the solid Tribune and like specifically to be like a thorn and brigham young side like that was the reason it existed and I’m sure there are many who might be listening who say well no da they’ve carried that tradition on well into the modern day. But.

57:12.71
Hailey
Aha yeah.

57:21.89
Hailey
Ah, well.

57:21.92
Geoff Openshaw
I mean um, there’s so much. This is a pretty decent decent length piece which as long as you don’t get blocked from it because it’s ah you know it can be paywallish when you’re with the post but absolutely worth your time to read and learn a little bit about the history of these 2 papers and so sort of how they’ve diverse.

57:28.65
Hailey
Um, yeah.

57:37.21
Hailey
Yeah.

57:39.91
Geoff Openshaw
Ah, they’ve come together, especially that weird revenue sharing agreement they had at 1 point in time now. How the Tribune is a registered nonprofit which might be the way forward for a lot of smaller newspapers so they don’t either go out of business. We get gobbled up by the sinclair’s and the other you know the the giant the media corporations in our country that own a lot of the local newspapers.

57:51.50
Hailey
Now.

57:59.28
Geoff Openshaw
And then tell them what they actually have to say rather than just cover local news. It’s ah it’s a pretty interesting read. It’s ah it’s a fun read.

58:02.39
Hailey
Yeah, well then and if you were those guys that started you know what was or the original tribune I can’t remember what it was called before it was called the tribune but it I mean just Brigham young didn’t want to have any sort of. He was controlling the economy like he only wanted to have like Mormon like based economies, incoming and outgoing and these guys are like okay that’s not cool because you know there’s mining and there’s stuff that you know and and that was kind of the motivation and I mean I kind of would agree with.

58:31.35
Geoff Openshaw
And we’re.

58:37.32
Hailey
Then like you can’t just control the entire economy I mean I guess.

58:40.36
Geoff Openshaw
And like in in some ways you understand the desire to cut yourself off even economically from the rest of the country I mean there that was quite theocratic and it was finally not um.

58:47.44
Hailey
Yeah, very theocratic but not necessarily. Yeah the most practical or I don’t know.

58:56.30
Geoff Openshaw
No, and not having to deal with Pesky neighbors anymore. There’s no, there’s no Missourians There’s no illinoisianss. There’s no residents of Quincy wondering when you’re going to move on. You know it’s just like not we got rid of all of them and now we can do what we want and what we want to do gar inser.

59:01.97
Hailey
Yeah.

59:08.57
Hailey
Yeah I mean who among us has not wanted to start like an artist’s compound in the mountains and go off the grid but at some point you have to go buy groceries I mean you have to interact with the modern world. So it just wasn’t.

59:23.91
Geoff Openshaw
Um, but you don’t you don’t you don’t you no no, you know you make a really good point though because even I remember like when I was I was driving through Southern ohio years ago which is Ohio has actually got a very large amist population Pennsylvania gets all the love but there are a lot of al people in ohio.

59:27.50
Hailey
Chess wasn’t feasible fine. We’ll invite some chefs and but’s still an artist.

59:37.45
Hailey
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

59:42.91
Geoff Openshaw
And you can pull over and go these bakeries and stuff. But even some of those practicalities like the amish people know their market and you’ve got amish people like speaking in Pennsylvania or like lower dutch to 1 another but like using ah you know square. Or something to make payments because they know they like as george castanza would say you know we are living in a society and that’s and those is the practical alley. So anyways, this is ah this was a great read. You should really take your time and check it out. It’s fun if you care about media in general and it also.

01:00:01.42
Hailey
Ah, you’re like well.

01:00:18.96
Geoff Openshaw
It’s a lot of context I think for de news in se lake today the trib today and the tri’s in a very interesting place because now it’s owned by 1 of the huntsman brothers a huntsman who’s active in the church and cares about the trib still like doing its job but also not making it just be kind of like oppositional for oppositional’s sake or anything like that. But it’s.

01:00:36.75
Hailey
Huh Yeah, no, it’s cool.

01:00:37.43
Geoff Openshaw
So very interesting. Yeah yeah, well anything else. You want to go out on here Haley before we wrap it up.

01:00:43.94
Hailey
Ah, um, oh yeah, well I mean I think 1 of the articles I really enjoyed was about ah pocateello and the interfaith um relationships there with the church and the Jewish community. Um. There’s I guess kind of in this history with this local temple jewish temple and pokco tele. Um, and the saints there and they’ve helped each other um I can’t remember the guy’s name but he is if you I don’t know if you have that? Um, yeah.

01:01:17.76
Geoff Openshaw
I can pull it up here.

01:01:22.14
Hailey
He actually helped with the groundbreaking of the temple. But then when his of the lds temple and then when a tale of 2 temples and then when his temple in his community needed some help with some outdoor renovations. Um.

01:01:27.53
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a tale of 2 temples here. Yes yes.

01:01:40.96
Hailey
I Think it was the state president there. They’re like oh well, you’re a friend well come help you. We’ll bring people and we know that Lds will show up with people and with trucks and that’s what they did. They showed up with just people in trucks and droves and just got everything done and um, they the members of that. Community were really impressed and grateful and I just love stories I Love interfaith you know works going on and it’s inspiring makes me want to do more of that.

01:02:10.00
Geoff Openshaw
And it’s cool I love that this like you said he got to turn the shovel at the pocateella groundbreaking you know that temple was dedicated just a matter of weeks ago I think that’s great. Awesome that they can do that good on them all right? My last one here everybody just some great news for fans of.

01:02:19.38
Hailey
Yeah.

01:02:29.20
Geoff Openshaw
Erstwhile u s senator won Jeff flake of Arizona everybody that’s right Jeff flake jeff flake who had an interesting time in congress during his 1 term there if you followed the saga of Jeff flake. He was senator during an interesting time to be a moderate seemingly like. Nice person in the senate. Um, but he’s since left right? He’s not He’s not there anymore, but he was appointed by the Biden administration which I’m sure some of you will roll your eyes at because you’ll say see there. It is. He’s a rhino all along. But jeff flake but Jeff flake. Regardless.

01:02:49.18
Hailey
So.

01:03:05.49
Geoff Openshaw
Servant his country was appointed to be the ambassador to turkey which is great. You know diplomatic presence is wonderfully and it was sworn in by vice president kamala harris um, of course why this matters to us. Jeff flake is an active member of our faith of an active latter day saint and I love this picture screen grab from vice President harris’s Twitter account. Of Jeff flake being sworn in as ambassador to turkey and his hand is right on top of a nice, big, beautiful brown quad and there is no mistaking that that is a quad that is not any other piece of scripture and that answers the question people say like if you were like a mormon becomes president like would you would you would you. But kind of the book of mormon jeff flake’s like no I’ve got this covered. It’s got the bible the book of mormon the doctrine and covenants and the portal of great price. There’s no I’m not leaving out any scriptures we’ve got them all covered. So so they’re all equally represented. So anyways, I just ah I think it’s very easy for.

01:03:54.48
Hailey
Yeah.

01:04:00.73
Geoff Openshaw
Anybody to just totally miss that Who’s not aware of our faith traditions and our beliefs and stuff like that. But I don’t I don’t I can’t remember if like I don’t know like if Mike Mitt Romney was sworn into the senate or anybody I need to look around at other like latter-day Saint Piece Politicians who have been sworn in and see what they viewed don’t know.

01:04:14.97
Hailey
Yeah, no I don’t know I’m just looking at the Vps Instagram and she put it on there too and so now I’m probably gonna after this go to go down the comments rabbit hole to see if anyone helps pointed that out.

01:04:29.19
Geoff Openshaw
And how someone must have I mean.

01:04:32.36
Hailey
So far there they don’t say very nice things. But um I really want Yeah I want so to ah and I know I So surprised? what’s happening. Oh and yeah.

01:04:35.66
Geoff Openshaw
Social media is a mean place. Are you kidding. Oh it would a stay so anyways, that’s cool I think it’s fun if I ever run for office I too. Will you? You know I will either use a quad or to really troll America I will use my katalan language book of Mormon to really make people be like what the heck is happening with this.

01:04:55.22
Hailey
Ah.

01:05:00.90
Geoff Openshaw
That’s right I want us all to speak Kaalan in this country. That’s that’s the aamic language say so take that suckers anyway. Well this has been great. Everybody Thanks for.

01:05:04.50
Hailey
Ah I’m out. Ah.

01:05:13.77
Geoff Openshaw
Being here and taking part in the news with us once again, go to our website this week mormons dot com you can get all the show notes for this transcript of the show links to all the articles we’ve spoken about yada yada yada and of course follow us on social media where we try not to be mean but at least interesting. You know like we’re not gonna be rude to you or anything and if you disagree with us that’s fine, but you know Twitter instagram facebook the big 3 join us on those and big shout out of course to our youtube watchers. Yeah, who like to see us talking. We. Love you guys. Thanks for being a part of this and thank you to our patrons on on patreon who helped financially support the show.

01:05:41.70
Hailey
Oh wow.

01:05:49.40
Geoff Openshaw
Very much appreciated if you want to do the same. Go find us on patreon patreon dot com slash this weekend mormons you can find Haley of course in an unnamed mysterious movie that she can’t tell too much about but something might happen at some point in time is that because is it because it’s going to be rate at r and you don’t want to tell us.

01:06:00.94
Hailey
Ah, yeah I think it’s I think the no no, no, it’s a family movie I think the well yeah I think.

01:06:08.58
Geoff Openshaw
Was with Mil forte really when the gruber trailer just dropped last week I don’t know if I believe you but okay I’m just kidding.

01:06:16.32
Hailey
Oh man that will be fun. Um I think it’s called Aliens abducted my parents and I kind of feel left out is the full title but on set we just call the aliens. But then I’ve also seen Aliens abducted by parents I don’t know it’s fun.

01:06:31.22
Geoff Openshaw
Yeah, well aliens itself is already a film you know so that’s that 1 but it’s not an camera action movie. Okay, okay.

01:06:36.65
Hailey
It’s not yeah, it’s not aliens. Um, yeah, um, but yeah, it’s gonna be a really fun family comedy that so I don’t know when it’s gonna come out I’ll keep you post it.

01:06:48.53
Geoff Openshaw
Okay, how was stuff with them. We gotta go but how was stuff with ah once I was engaged was everyone happy with once I was engaged with its.

01:06:52.71
Hailey
Once I was engaged I mean I I think so I mean it’s um, you can get it now. Dvd blu rayy a desire book and hopefully at some point it will be digital digital somewhere somewhere streaming. Um.

01:07:10.27
Geoff Openshaw
Oh it’ll be on living scriptures before like the year is out work. You can I think I think you can stream the entire like hailstorm filmography you know so when you’re dying to watch the home teachers in the r m back to back.

01:07:12.50
Hailey
We just? Ah, yeah yeah, we just we just don’t know where yet. Um.

01:07:26.35
Hailey
Mm Um, yes, new weekend plans. Thanks for that. Can’t wait. Oh bad. Um, yeah, no, it’s I mean it’s It’s been fun. We’ll see we’ll see um we we’d like.

01:07:28.49
Geoff Openshaw
You have you have that resource to make the book.

01:07:32.68
Geoff Openshaw
There we go. Okay.

01:07:44.50
Hailey
Get it out there to more people so we’ll you know, follow the Instagram or Facebook to find out where it will be oh.

01:07:50.70
Geoff Openshaw
And well when it’s gonna be be coming out. We’ll make sure to get you and will forte on the show and then I will I will derail the entire program I just ask him about the last man on earth and we’ll talk about nothing but that show.

01:07:58.93
Hailey
Yes, that’s that’s all that I asked him about when I met him and he loves to talk about it. So.

01:08:05.20
Geoff Openshaw
And so I was it ended. Okay, but I was bummed it ended without getting an actual like you know you know and it just kind of ended which happens to shows all the time.

01:08:10.41
Hailey
I know I know it was so sad because it kind of like was gonna get like really exciting I don’t know I yeah.

01:08:20.90
Geoff Openshaw
It’s I’m gonna say it’s not for everybody folks I Can’t recommend it to all of you but I thought it was such a bizarre. It was a a very interesting program and I I enjoy it. We watched it. Yeah consistently it was a very bizarre little program I enjoyed it.

01:08:25.95
Hailey
I Loved it.

01:08:33.47
Hailey
1 of my favorite bits is him in that inflatable dinosaur I don’t know why but so funny, but just.

01:08:45.60
Geoff Openshaw
So was that 1 in season 3 when they found the Silicon valley office and they were living in that 1 I think oh you know every season they live somewhere else and there was season four when they were in the hacienda in Mexico and there was all that stuff. Well anyways, we digress. So ah yeah.

01:08:49.74
Hailey
Maybe yeah yeah, yeah, yes, it’s so great. Ah sorry yeah, my pleasure.

01:09:03.20
Geoff Openshaw
Haley smith great great to have you here. Thanks for joining us this week pleasure to have you and thanks for all you listening can’t do it without you seriously. So thanks for being a part of this show and we hope you’ll share it with everybody else and until we talk again. This has been this week mormons for Haley I’m Jeff we’ll talk to you later. But bye.

01:09:07.49
Hailey
And fun.

 

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