EP 561 – He Used the F Word

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00:00.00
Geoff
Hey everybody merry christmas it’s this week mormons I’m Geoff Openshaw wishing you well groggy morning voice here but I have no excuses whatsoever because my co-host this week for some reason is less groggy than I am even though he’s 2 hours earlier I don’t even know how you’re awake at this hour but Richie Steadman cultural hall what’s going on man.

00:17.44
Richie T
The early bird catches. The news.

00:19.48
Geoff
Ah, you doing? okay. Do. You actually like I mean I guess I’ll think about if we interact at nighttime. But when do you actually go to bed. Do you sleep? Okay, so.

00:28.40
Richie T
I don’t I don’t I don’t go to bed at night and I don’t really have to wake up in the morning. It’s constant honestly, probably like ah you know ten thirty eleven o’clock or so and then I roll out come to work at like 4 in the morning.

00:33.34
Geoff
You What time? do you actually go to bed usually for real given your yeah, you’re probably, you’re probably up the the life of the of the morning drive huh.

00:47.15
Richie T
Well, you don’t have to tell me about it. But.

00:51.43
Geoff
I mean I ah growing up listening to old Kevin bean in California I always thought like oh the morning drive. Well you know that’s the covetant gig that’s that’s the 1 but I’m like do these people are up at like 3 in the morning to make this possible.

00:59.54
Richie T
Now did you listen to the Kevin bean when they were actually together in the same studio or were you in the era of Kevin and bean where they tried to make it sound like Kevin and bean were in the same place and 1 of them was in the studio that was like next door to his bedroom and so he didn’t have to go anymore. Do you know? Yeah, okay, okay.

01:14.90
Geoff
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, oh I know yes I’m all of it all of it I I mean I grew up in the era in the ninety s when you know it was very cool to have the K rock stickers and you’d put them all over your stuff. Everyone at k rock stickers because it was cool.

01:19.28
Richie T
Okay, okay.

01:23.30
Richie T
Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:29.20
Geoff
Remember that? yeah being being worked into his contract later on to build able to move out to vashian island in puget sound and and they built him a full-b blown home studio and you but most of the time you couldn’t really tell the difference he was. He was fine and then they unceremonious then being retired and I couldn’t believe they didn’t even fly him down to the studio for his retirement. This was only a couple of years ago.

01:36.86
Richie T
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:48.56
Geoff
So like he’s literally on the monitor. Not even there for his last show with the show and then Kevin carried on and then they unceremoniously just like canceled Kevin with everybody else like a year later and like no notice it was on for 30 years yeah Yeah

01:57.85
Richie T
Yeah, you know you know what? that is a that is a perfect example of the industry of which I work in hey you know you’re really great. We care about you a lot actually today we don’t care about you anymore. We’re done. We are done with you.

02:10.90
Geoff
What is it which is amazing. It’s like dude we’ve been on the air for like 35 years in this network but sure. Okay, you do you? It’s only a matter of time until they have a podcast because that is what everyone.

02:17.41
Richie T
Done done.

02:24.25
Richie T
Um, yup you have you guys heard about these podcasts. It’s very exciting this podcast and then for you and I who have been in it for more in 11 years we’re like yeah guys hey welcome to the party.

02:34.81
Geoff
I want to give Apple credit for creating a new word I mean a podcast is a simple concept. It’s essentially a radio show. That’s just pre-recorded and distributed differently right distributed for download instead of over the air. But the whole term came about because Apple basically created the idea and because of their.

02:42.67
Richie T
Me.

02:54.12
Geoff
Ipod world. They called it a podcast nobody thought much of it and now it is a standard industry term used across different. You know, platforms and everything they created a whole word. Amazing.

03:03.76
Richie T
You know you know I met the guy who created the first ever podcast available. It’s a.

03:09.10
Geoff
And was this like a guy was this a guy who just sat down and recorded something and said you know what I’m gonna do I’m gonna export this at Ninety Six Kbps and I’m just gonna let people download it and I’m gonna call it the podcast instead of a spoken word album I mean like what did what? how did he decide who created this? yeah.

03:19.88
Richie T
yeah yeah I mean it was something like that. But knowing that he is the first person to have ever done it. He’s unbearable to be around.

03:26.63
Geoff
So how does he know this? How do you prove that that you’re the first person to record something with talking and ask people to download it. What what? what made him define it that way. That’s what I’m pretty.

03:34.70
Richie T
I I mean so there’s this website. Ah this date in the internet history. Um, and then you can go back and you can look and see when other people do it I guess I don’t know if that’s really how he did it. But.

03:40.27
Geoff
You yes, this week at mormons dot com yes, all that’s fair.

03:48.68
Richie T
Whether or not he was the first or not he was unbearable to be around because he felt like he was the first person. Yes, yes, yes, ah and and we all know that person right? The 1 who has the 1 thing that they hang their hat on in their life.

03:52.38
Geoff
So was this guy at the conference was he at the conference was he 1 of the speakers. Oh yeah, and he he is probably riding that gravy train. All he can.

04:07.52
Richie T
And they’re like yeah this and you’re like yeah yeah, yeah, yep huh? Yep, we know that about you Great Great! Yes, oh you did? oh you dare say what’s it is.

04:13.77
Geoff
That’s ah, that’s me and this podcast that’s all I have that’s it. We’re we’re we’re finishing our we’re finished. We’re coming up to start what you’re 13 now here soon I think and it’s all I have to show for it. That’s it. So.

04:25.35
Richie T
Ah, as the song would tell me it is the original Mormon news.

04:29.56
Geoff
I love that song I love that song Richie I know you’ve got your whatever your your little intro always makes me think like I’m watching an old hailtorm movie. That’s all I can think of every time I hear it probably cause you took it from 1 of those I have no idea but you know I dids it’s scara. It’s sky. No which is great. That’s.

04:36.22
Richie T
Um. Well, it actually you didn’t ask but I’ll tell you? Ah yeah, it’s scott. It’s from ah it actually was in a hailstorm movie. But yeah, the original singles word. It’s book of mormon stories done in Scott version but I actually knew the band.

04:49.29
Geoff
Was it for was that 1 from the singles word. Okay, yeah, yeah.

04:58.84
Richie T
I followed them around in college they were they were the saw solutions as an s o u l u t I o n s ah and I just asked him permission I didn’t get like written permission. In fact, a couple of years ago. The lead singer who has since left the church.

04:58.95
Geoff
Did you get the rights for cultural hall.

05:13.57
Geoff
Ah, come on. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did I used to dabble in this world of assuming fair use for various purposes and I’ve I’ve so I’ve transitioned away from that.

05:15.95
Richie T
Said did we give you permission for that and I was like yeah yeah, yeah, you did and they’re like okay yeah, that’s fine. Ah.

05:27.23
Richie T
Oh that That’s safe.

05:31.86
Geoff
You know because as time goes on, you’re like well you know like you listen to Npr or something at the end of segments are just like randomly playing outro of popular music I’m assuming they just up and do it and you’re like no, they’re probably actually going to length to message the publishers and say can we? Yeah yeah, it’s ah paying the button. That’s how you get things like the the Mormon news rap.

05:38.00
Richie T
Mother.

05:48.82
Richie T
Um, yeah.

05:50.61
Geoff
That we’ve had for years thanks to fiverr 1 of the greatest websites in the world. That’s how you get those things done you pay somebody 5 bucks.

05:53.76
Richie T
Now 1 question that I don’t know in and I in my secretive listening for many years and now my out and open listen of your um podcast in that song. They they introduce you as g off is that just because the person didn’t know how to say Geoff but.

06:09.57
Geoff
Yes, and we didn’t want to bother to go back and have him redo it so we just leave it alone I mean the whole song’s in accurate. It still talks about geoff and al and Al is here in spirit I Guess we’d stay but he’s not a regular rather fixture of the program.

06:14.10
Richie T
Um, that’s what I thought but.

06:21.92
Richie T
Sure now.

06:27.98
Geoff
If you listen to. Although there says many things it says ah al is the big bearded guy of Missouri g off is the bearded nationalist in D c that’s what it says which is great I’m glad to have the bearded nationalist label upon me in the post trump era I think that’s very strong for my friend.

06:33.21
Richie T
Ah, sure.

06:42.16
Richie T
Yeah, leading out with your best foot. Maybe it’s time you go back to fiverr I mean we so we ah al macron is is running rampant in the world but you wouldn’t know that here. Everything is you know.

06:45.10
Geoff
There We how are things ah going on over there in Utah. How’s the cultural hall What going on to.

07:01.32
Richie T
As is normal. Don’t tell me what to do. We’re getting together as a family because it’s our right to do it as a family church. No masks at Church yesterday. Yeah.

07:11.39
Geoff
It’s interesting I mean it’s all over I mean california just put up the indoor mask mandate again which includes church I don’t think there’s a carve out for religious sort of organizations. We’ve ever stopped masking here in virginia and I think we were maybe leaning into it then with Omaron I Believe the North america northeast. Leadership I don’t think they gave a mask edict. But I think like a lot of bishops were like all right, all right? Not that’s not time to ease up. Yeah, if anything we made an announcement yesterday where they reread the letter from the pulpit back from august about the first presidency encouraging vaccinations and masks for those who are not. You know the 1 that’s pretty clear. Um.

07:30.88
Richie T
Um.

07:47.98
Geoff
And then also just said hey we’re also going to keep ah, wipes up here at the podium. We used to wipe down the podium in between every speaker for a while we haven’t been doing that but they but they brought him up and said hey if you’re up here and you want to wipe down the podium. We’re keeping wipes up here and there’s a trash can so you do you? So we’re actually kind of getting a little more into it again. So.

07:51.71
Richie T
Oh yeah, it.

08:01.95
Richie T
Did your ward. Do the favorite thing where they take the wipe over the microphone and wipe and clean the microphone after every use.

08:08.80
Geoff
I I’ve seen them do that. Yeah I know and I’m like you know I’ve evolved I think I talked about this once I evolved a little bit way Back. We were doing like zoom stuff I’d get up there and I’d see them like not touching cleaning the mic or the or anything and I’d be like guys. How are you not cleaning like this is ah. People are, but then the more I thought about it I’m like unless somebody getting up. There is like putting their mouth on the microphone allah the citizens of pawnee with drinking fountains like if they unless they’re doing that I think the chances of you just standing there and projecting more onto the microphone I don’t think you’re going to like pick something up really. But yeah I did see the deal wiped out.

08:45.40
Richie T
You know and I should take this back. There were people that were wearing masks the the priesthood holders that were passing the sacrament they wore masks Yesterday but they were like 1 was hanging off the nose 1 was off the chin and I I almost wanted to stop and just be like. Can we just not I mean at the point that we’re not wearing these things properly is there a point or is it so performative that these gentlemen wear these masks right now for everyone to feel comfortable like they’re not doing what they’re supposed to be doing. Let’s just take them off.

09:14.47
Geoff
So ours have consistently warmed even when we stopped for a brief bit kind of masking back in you know, like mid like Midsummer probably before delta kind of hit our sacrament. Yeah, our sac our sacrament folks have they’ve still worn masks and they wear latex gloves.

09:19.48
Richie T
E. Oh Delta. Ah.

09:33.75
Geoff
Don’t mess around. They stopped even using hand sanitizer. They just do that and we still have sacrament and individuals serving cups like for the bread so we don’t rummage around. Yeah, we’ll see what happens I Hope the summaron stuff I mean they know it’s really, it’s a lot more contagious but I think the Jury’s still out on how severe the illness can be if you get it.

09:33.92
Richie T
Yep.

09:37.59
Richie T
Yeah, we still do that We still do that.

09:52.62
Geoff
Some have said it’s more minor I’m hoping it will be I don’t know we’ll see ah what happens there I’ll probably get it this week because I’m gonna go see spiderman on Tuesday night and that’s apparently and no I haven’t no spoilers from anybody but I’m assuming that’s gonna be the super spreader event of the year because it’s just gonna be.

09:59.30
Richie T
Oh yeah, you haven’t seen it yet. No oh no I won’t I won’t.

10:11.33
Geoff
3 four hundred people in a packed auditorium not caring. It’s gonna be great I can’t I actually want it. This is not this is a little bit like macabw. But I want to see the data if we can trace back or spike in Covid cases to spiderman screenings if there’s a way they’ll be able to do this I just wonder because if you saw it made.

10:22.84
Richie T
Hey.

10:29.30
Richie T
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

10:29.72
Geoff
Insane money over the weekend made 1 hundred million more dollars than they expected. It would make it made like infinity war level money for an opening weekend. That’s good even outside of a pandemic by every measure and yet we’re the middle of the pan I’m just curious I’m just curious if it’ll actually like exacerbate the problem by everyone going to.

10:43.89
Richie T
Ah I’m I’m excited about this because once we get through omakron the next variant will be Pi I’m excited for pi.

10:46.90
Geoff
Spidy I don’t know it’ll be interesting. So.

10:53.27
Geoff
Hi Yeah I is that the dad joke you were hoping to get in. Okay because I like oh but oh macron.

10:59.27
Richie T
No no, the dad joke comes later I’ll I’ll no no no I will I will broadcast when the joke is made the.

11:08.25
Geoff
I Rememberized the latin alphabet when I was in seventh grade because of my science class. So I still saw I’ve been working through the the variance like alphabega I’m a delta epssilon’s 8 8 theta I goes like okay I’ll get a little bit of this wrong I’m sure now. But it’s like alphabetta againmma delta eilon’s a to a to theta.

11:13.22
Richie T
Come on sing it like you mean it I want to hear it. Let’s go.

11:22.99
Geoff
Iota kapaammb de mo news I oakron pi roasig mata uppsilon phi ka Sigh omega, we’re not a omega. Yeah, we’re okay, no means the pandemic is over officially when they can’t mute it anymore.

11:27.26
Richie T
There we go you know? Yeah, if we get to omega does that mean that it’s the second coming. Oh it’s the end. Got it got it? got it yep

11:39.62
Geoff
But I’m a little work. We got only from delta to aakron pretty quickly. So and there’s a lot in between um and I saw something just the other day. This is just pfizer but they said they don’t think we’ll get to an endemic level maybe until 2024 we could which would mean when it’s a manageable regular occurring just.

11:49.88
Richie T
Sure.

11:56.35
Geoff
Thing like we get vaccine for it. Some people get covid but life goes on but that’s still like 2 years or more from now. So that’s also a pfizer exec though probably hoping to sell more vaccines you know so I don’t know right? because that’s all they do the the dna the rna changes you and the government controls your body. Yeah.

12:00.84
Richie T
Yep Yep yep. Yeah, yeah, sure I’ve got Yeah I’ve got the chip I got that done.

12:16.34
Geoff
I’ve been doing things ever since I got my booster that I didn’t even think um I wasn’t even conscious in doing them. Yeah I don’t know anyho well ah folks. Well hope you’re having a great christmas week here here. We are on the old twinster we haven’t done a regular news episode on Christmas week in a while we we did not do our stories of Christmas.

12:19.90
Richie T
Yeah, well.

12:32.50
Richie T
Oh yeah, what happened is it because I didn’t submit a story. Yeah yeah.

12:33.60
Geoff
This year maybe it’s just a general lack of interest and support really so you know typical thing. So maybe next year we’ll do I don’t know we’ll see everyone’s busy, but there’s still fun amounts of latter day saint news that we can all get to this week um it’s a. Week and the first I’m going to get into here. The handbook was updated last week we got a couple different handbook Updates. We might be able to get to um 1 that stuck out to some folks though was the section on music was updated and by the way for some context they’re done updating the general handbook now in english.

12:57.83
Richie T
Sure.

13:11.38
Geoff
That is it. The project is finished. They said it would take a little while it would be iterative. The iterations have have stopped. They’re working on foreign languages still but that’s it until they decide to update the handbook again which I imagine they’ll just do when they feel like it like we do with everything being digital now they’ll just say hey hey but it’s gonna be 3 years from now and say all right by the bye.

13:25.13
Richie T
Yeah.

13:31.90
Geoff
We’ve updated this handbook section because yes now the women have the priest stood so you know no I Just good. Um, yeah, so so for for the musicians among us I don’t say this has been like huge pain point for many but maybe it’s more more than maybe more than I realize.

13:33.94
Richie T
Yeah, yeah I didn’t see that in there I was looking for those adjustment I did not see that.

13:49.47
Geoff
But officially at least in the handbook for a long time. The original handbook said about the musical instruments you could use in sacra meaning we kind of know it’s like yeah I got the organ and piano obviously and then it’s usually violins and things like that for special musical numbers. But it did say quote Organs and pianos.

13:55.13
Richie T
M.

14:05.45
Geoff
Or their electronic equivalents are the standard instruments used in church meetings if other oh if other instruments are used. They should be keeping with the spirit of the meeting instruments with a prominent or less worshipful sound such as most brass and percussion are not appropriate foracrament meeting and so for years the you know the trumpeters among us have been like come on guys I want the or the trombones among that true. No sad trombone sound. Um, so this has been the thing for a while I’ve been in wards that have still had like.

14:25.62
Richie T
Ah.

14:40.20
Geoff
Trumpets show up here and there usually for something like a Christmas program because it’s all jolly, but everyone’s kind of known that you are not allowed to have these particular Instruments. No electric guitars in sacrament. Nothing. That’s a prominent or less worshipful sound that is. I Think that still kind of leaves. Ah they they pointed out brass and most brass and percussion most brass and percussion. That’s a thing like French horn is a glorious instrument I Dont think I think there’s no brass instrument that just sort of shows glory more than a French horn which brass different has the most like glorious line.

14:58.87
Richie T
Not the french horn. No 1 needs your french horn in your sacrament meeting. Yep, that’s it.

15:10.80
Richie T
Yeah, sure sure.

15:15.54
Geoff
So they’ve updated the handbook more or less where they’ve got rid of this and all they’ve said now is bishoprics may use. The may approve the use of so other instruments to accompany congregational singing for prelude and post luw music and in other musical selections musical instruments should convey a feeling of worship and be played in keeping with the spirit of the meeting so now essentially it just means that it’s a. It’s open to interpretation I guess so if you want your bishop says like yes yes yes I want the brass quartet up there. It’s playing. Go tell it on the mountain and that is gonna happen now and if you want to throw a banjo in for good measure make it happen. This this is great. We’re we’re only a few steps away from a worship band and I’m really excited richitchie and praise ah feel you it’s is gonna be this hand move whole lot of motion my hands like this just moving moving.

15:53.44
Richie T
Um, but see in my mind I sort of think. Ah, yep, yeah, a whole lot of feeling whole lot of hands in the air. But. I Like the idea in my mind’s eye when I when I read about this I Like the idea that the bishop sort of sits up on the ah you know on the stand and then a marching band walks by and he goes approved not approved approved and they just sort of make their way and then whoever gets selected gets to stay and find their place up on the.

16:22.24
Geoff
And the and the poor melophone player will never be allowed on a sad sad day this this this could be great. We could have like typanies and imagine if we some brought their tympanies out there Don du du du du do du.

16:26.44
Richie T
Ah, yeah, ah my poor euphonium as he sits in the back sure yet that at at this point I see no reason why we shouldn’t do it push the boundaries.

16:43.32
Geoff
I’m super excited I don’t know I mean I guess yourself to be reverent which means no like ripping guitar solos but you.

16:46.56
Richie T
Well I mean as appropriate with worshipful right? It can’t do it every week otherwise it loses its effect but like fast and testimony meaning you have someone get up and bear their testimony with a fanciful guitar riff I’ve seen that before.

17:00.29
Geoff
So anyway, but someone for testimony mean just got up there and did open mike night. Yeah, yeah, sure should you imagine that they walk up like hold on a second I got a plug in hold on.

17:05.40
Richie T
Yeah, yeah, it was not an electric guitar but it was when I was in yeah greening yeah straight up got his guitar up there. Go ding D Dong ding Dng Dong Dng D Do I Love Gun can yep.

17:20.71
Geoff
It it was like ah oh he he jammed it wasn’t like it wasn’t some some plet some little finger plucking Kenneth cope isn it it was it was what happened to Kenneth cope anyway, where’s Kenneth cope.

17:24.38
Richie T
Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, it was a full on jam. I I don’t want to speculate because I don’t know for sure. But I think I know but let’s just say he’s around he I mean he’s around. But if you look up what happened to Kenneth cope I think you find real quick. What happened to him you got you got to now but I don’t think that we can.

17:36.79
Geoff
What what does that? What does that? What does that mean.

17:45.23
Geoff
I Oh boy I’m this I Okay I’m have to do this.

17:51.92
Richie T
I Don’t think we discuss those people’s business on on this because it’s alleged. It’s alleged stuff not like he’s in trouble with the law I Just mean with the church.

17:52.65
Geoff
Oh no, oh no see this just tells you about Kenneth copeland who is a televangelist that’s all I’m getting if I google it you get a whole lot about ah all right? oh.

18:03.53
Richie T
Um, you got to go minus land there. You go you know speaking of the church handbook of instructions. The big, the big miss that I feel like a lot of people haven’t been talking about is the different versions of the scriptures that we can use. So.

18:14.25
Geoff
Yeah. Tell me more.

18:22.89
Richie T
You know it’s a long held tradition that we when you say what bible Do you read from. We say the King James version because it’s the most accurate but bla bla. But now that the new changes to the handbook says it may be useful to use other versions of the of the scriptures.

18:40.87
Geoff
That’s huge.

18:41.87
Richie T
It it it it I know that it doesn’t sound like it is and it shouldn’t necessarily be but it is a big deal, especially where for a long time. We’ve hung our hat on the King James version Now they’re like listen, you need to understand more read the new translation.

18:43.70
Geoff
No it. No no, It’s a huge and what I wonder is do you think they’ve done this because like in foreign languages.

19:01.58
Richie T
Right.

19:02.30
Geoff
There’ is not a king james version like in Spanish I mean we have approved ones of course like in Spanish we use the reign of valera version which is the most correct. But at the bottom line is you can’t perfectly just translate like literally the king james version to every other language and have it be like the exact level of fidelity that you want for the king james version to ensure and then if we’re if you.

19:14.61
Richie T
Right.

19:21.30
Geoff
Can’t do that. The church isn’t gonna fully do that like we have done it with like with the renovvalera bible. For example, the church finally went through and annotated it and did the whole and you can get a quad in Spanish now as of like 5 years ago which is a big deal but that’s actually that’s very cool that they’re opening up to that because I think a lot of times when folks might show up and be like so what does this.

19:29.73
Richie T
Um, cool. Yeah.

19:39.48
Geoff
You know the new world translation say about this and you’ll hear war members being like what are they doing? what is what what is this it’s not the Joseph smith translation. This is no what are you doing? What are you doing.

19:42.35
Richie T
Yeah, yeah, well I you know I had in it in the in the old ward that I was in in downtown salt lake 1 of our Sunday school teachers actually taught from the new translation and.

19:52.36
Geoff
That exploits it and what was the and and the driving idea behind that like what was the but what was the perceived benefit. Yeah.

20:01.95
Richie T
It’s easier to understand and said you know what for you know, a better comprehension. Let’s read from this and you would have thought that he would have said you know, let’s read from. You know the quran or something like that the way that some people reacted in that Sunday school and I was like guys it no, it’s the same I think we’re missing the point. And then everyone sort of settled down but that first time that he’s like let’s look at the new translation. Everyone was like what are we doing.

20:25.80
Geoff
Are are there any famous passages that are in the new world translation that like are potentially doctrinally suspect. You know.

20:33.10
Richie T
Oh what? probably I mean there’s stuff in the King James version where we go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but then later it says something different so focus on the later part. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:41.38
Geoff
So well I mean like all have songs of solomon for example, especially so excited for old testament next year oh my gosh. It’s gonna be. It’s gonna be a gas. The best part about old testament is that the old I made this makes sense but it’s the old testament but like the very first lesson you’re reading for the book of moses instead.

20:51.50
Richie T
Yeah.

20:59.48
Geoff
So I mean I mean like what else you’ gonna do. It’s pretty great pride I get it. But it’s just kind of funny to me. It’s like no, you’re not doing in the beginning. There was the word and but yeah, that no, it’s yeah I did not realize they’ve squeezed that 1 into the handbook and I’m surprised that fewer people aren’t discussing it.

21:00.14
Richie T
Nick right? right? right? right. Nope. Nope. Nope. New, New, New, New, New New. Yeah, it really is just sort of a surprise as far as all that goes. Um, ah you know also that what’s that Thank you very much. Also, you know, stop being a jerk online.

21:15.48
Geoff
Good, good. Good pick Ritchie good pick Ritchie well done. Tell me more about not because on je online.

21:25.31
Richie T
Within the new handbook when when they’re talking about trolling right? people a lot of people are ascribing this to the ah you know to come at the desnett folks. But I mean I think it I think it’s general populist behavior on social media and or the internet that the church has said.

21:35.79
Geoff
It could be anybody.

21:44.76
Richie T
Okay, it’s time we’re saying something about it.

21:45.80
Geoff
Yeah, it says the so the quota it condemns quote threatening bullying degrading violent or otherwise abusive language or images online. Um, in that case, there’s members of congress who stand against the handbook.

22:01.55
Richie T
I mean kind of the thing that I the thing that I would wonder about it is. Do you think that it’ll come to like how does this? How does this see itself out right? like as the bishop screenshot at a thing from someone you know 1 of his congregants and then sits down and says.

22:04.69
Geoff
And book of instruction. Yeah, yeah, this amp.

22:19.75
Richie T
Ah, Geoff when you told ritchie to you know, shove it was that the way that he should have you know been treated.

22:23.74
Geoff
Well, how much other hand How much other like general handbook stuff. Do we fail on I mean I mean and then how do you? What’s the value system of this here I think this is very important of course but it’s not like here. They’ve they’ve ranked it or anything like that I mean this is this goes back to like what if you violated.

22:33.10
Richie T
Sure.

22:41.10
Geoff
Not allowing horns and s Sara meeting previously is that an indictable offense in terms of like meeting with your bishop I Just I don’t know I think this is the kind of thing where we just have the handbook and we reference it and we say here and people will say here is the doctrine here’s what we have so.

22:52.30
Richie T
Yeah, you make a good point Geoff having a trumpet in in sacrament meeting is equivalent to threatening someone’s life on social media. They should be treated as such.

22:59.92
Geoff
Yeah I I feel like it’s the same level of fence that it is for me when I’ve gone to church and someone has played the Trumpet I have felt I could feel the spirit leave my body this. Well.

23:06.35
Richie T
Yeah, yeah, how how will we figure our way between those 2 things that’s like that is a great point. Ah.

23:17.94
Geoff
Um, that’s ah yeah, these are some good updates I like the church though I like him you know, codifying that and saying it’s not to be trolls and I agree most people seem to be jumping down at Desnett I think a lot of that primarily though is because it’s publications like the trib and others that are covering this I don’t even know desret news is bothering to cover this story.

23:33.50
Richie T
Yeah, yeah.

23:37.92
Geoff
Or or more conservative outlets and if they did maybe they would then say like hey how about like people on the left and then the tribalism will continue and continue and continue as we pick 1 another apart. But yeah, don’t be a dink online put people like just don’t be that person that’s.

23:50.67
Richie T
With the election and everything of yesteryear. Did you find yourself falling into that like I I caught myself a couple times just being horrible and then I was like and I don’t really want to be this person kind of.

24:01.52
Geoff
Um, ah you were using abusive or threatening language Richie I don’t know I don’t think I like you to say hey you dummy and you say I no I’m I well.

24:07.23
Richie T
More more more offensive less threatening. Ah yeah, like I was sort of being a bully.

24:17.68
Geoff
I think there’s been. There’s been times when I’ve probably said something been like okay that was a bit much but I tried not to I try to keep it academic in my but sometimes you get frustrated because 1 obviously online discourse goes nowhere and and I mean like okay digression but like a say in the in the wake of the election many people saying the election was stolen despite.

24:27.50
Richie T
Sure.

24:35.64
Richie T
Right? right.

24:37.52
Geoff
There’s no evidence to support that whatsoever despite the fact that the lawyers who are supposed to represent the cases for that didn’t actually submit anything in court to that effect because doing so would make them legally responsible for doing so and that should tell you a lot about the actual case about the election being stolen. But um.

24:42.43
Richie T
Right.

24:52.43
Geoff
Try to explain this to people be like no the whole thing was Stolen. It’s all the conspiracy. There’s irregularities all these little stuff you see and then you could like you can put out easy things to to prove any of this refute any of those points and there will grow moments when you get so frustrated and you’re like dude I understand that your brain. Smaller than that of a squirrel or some life like that and that’s what you have to resist you have to resist that you have to I mean it’s you know it’s ah I’ve I’m not perfect either I try to be better about it. But you know I don’t know what can you do.

25:12.18
Richie T
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I did I didn’t have the self-control to resist that on occasion.

25:26.40
Richie T
It.

25:27.87
Geoff
What can you do’s do you ever find yourself like do does part of you ever like hope to see some of the more out there outspoken types on your social media feed like you’re you’re waiting for them to share something that you can then jump on once more like do you do you yearn for this experience and in a perverse way.

25:39.76
Richie T
You know? Yeah yeah, oh I Absolutely used to do that like in the height of everything That’s exactly what I’m talking about like oh I can’t wait.

25:46.72
Geoff
Ah, so.

25:51.92
Richie T
I Can’t wait for this thing and then post it on this person’s wall send it in their messenger find their email address and send it to them and then say hey what do you think? what do we say and what do you? What? what about this I’ve tried to get away from that. It’s for the betterment.

26:04.12
Geoff
That’s for the best um 1 other handbook change just before we go coming back coming back to music another cool update that I didn’t want us to to walk away from is they mentioned as well. That sacred music that is written or sung in culturally diverse musical styles may help unify congregations. Music coordinators and priesthood leaders may include a variety of appropriate musical styles that appeal to members of various backgrounds 2 things the first 1 real quick I saw some upset over the weekend that this last clause says music coordinators and priesthood leaders implying that ward music chairs are unable to operate with autonomy.

26:35.67
Richie T
Ah.

26:37.76
Geoff
I saw some interesting Twitter threads actually with people saying telling their experience of like oh no I had bishops who would like make me had not to approve every him every Sunday or they put the oh they put the cabash down and that is what it says you know I’ve been in a lot of words where there’s that’s on paper but the music leaders’ just doing what they do and that’s it. But anyway.

26:41.98
Richie T
Sure That’s how it is in the handbook.

26:52.72
Richie T
Sure.

26:56.15
Geoff
So That’s something to consider. It does say priesthood leaders is adding an example of the patriarchy lording over stuff I don’t know I mean I think almost every auxiliary point in the handbook says so and so and priesthood leaders because it all comes back to that. But I think this is the. Big thing here though is culturally diverse musical styles I don’t know what this could also open things up to but I think it’s great. The church is sort of recognizing that our membership is diverse and in many ways trying to Export. What’s essentially American protestantism approach to the way we do our hymns. Doesn’t fit every single mold at least abroad, especially abroad, especially outside the us. So I’m all for anything that makes it seem less like we’re trying to export American Social norms to other countries.

27:37.62
Richie T
Well the thing that I’m excited for most is that this opens me up for the opportunity to release my lounge style hymns that I’ll be I’ll be doing in 2022 it’s ah basically me with a microphone I have a snare drum in front of me and ah you know a soft bristle fan.

27:44.74
Geoff
Absolutely.

27:55.50
Geoff
Yeah, no.

27:57.30
Richie T
Ah, drumstick that I’m just gonna if if you could hi to go love oh in the twinkling of an eye.

28:06.67
Geoff
Ah, rich you where were you back in like 2000 2000 and 1 man I did I I did this we could have done this together we had we did a road show the last road show I’m aware of since then in my steak and I’ll spray the whole plot of the roadshow but there was a sequence but.

28:11.10
Richie T
I know.

28:22.61
Richie T
Um, oh they had a plot. Um.

28:26.52
Geoff
They did they were on they were on the internet and they stumbled across a website that had like a lounge singer and I got up there I wore like a velvet suit and I did give said the little stream but gives the little stream hey give O give it was great.

28:34.70
Richie T
Um, if people are wondering we are the same person.

28:43.33
Geoff
The only fundamental difference being a hundred years ago in America I would not be socially abused for having red hair so on that’s the that’s the you would have trouble as an immigrant a hundred hundred years ago and 2

28:50.40
Richie T
Um, right? Yep, that is literally the only difference but. Yeah, Thank you, Thank you.

29:01.71
Geoff
I On the other hand I just I look you know I just look like a beautiful englishman. Yeah.

29:05.73
Richie T
Hey you just you just look real American ah should should should we move along to Oh are you there? Oh now we’ve gone crazy. It’s not me. It’s you.

29:08.26
Geoff
Thank you I am I am the real. Yeah I’m here Ritchie I’m here baby? No I’m here I’m here.

29:26.96
Geoff
What’s going on Richie don’t make me edit this stuff out. It takes more time. Please stand by and.

29:56.79
Geoff
I don’t know where Ritchie went everybody I don’t even know if he can hear me but I’m here for him. He’s just staring into the void. He’s not there.

30:13.17
Richie T
Okay, the music is coming through now your video is really bad. Yeah now I can hear you the music was real bad for a minute

30:15.85
Geoff
Oh Hello Richie That’s just it can you hear me though. So just talk man just talk. Well. That sounds like a personal problem. Maybe you need to talk to your tenants about their internet connect quality. Well it’s not me. Yeah, it’s because I’m playing it there. It’s over so where were you.

30:34.21
Richie T
Um, it’s not me I’m still here in music.

30:44.68
Richie T
Um, ah perfect. Let’s make ah you went you went ah garbly. Yeah yeah I was going to move on I was going to make the hard seggue. Let us take a drive up to small town utah.

30:50.64
Geoff
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, anyways, you were gonna move on. You were gonna move on to a story though. Yeah, go ahead Mcarn segue.

31:04.45
Richie T
To the cash valley where ah oh geez if you followed this at all. Ah the utah state university police chief is in the news um and and I should probably make this warning that this could be triggering for folks. I’m talking about sexual assault talking about um rape and or other things. Um the utah state police chief earl morris warned the utah state university football team that lds women will often tell their bishop.

31:26.12
Geoff
That’s fair.

31:42.31
Richie T
When questioned about ah whether or not their sex was consensual that it’s easier. Ah that they might be feeling Regret. He continued for having sex before marriage which goes against the faith teachings of abstinence. And says and if you’re not used to a mormon community folks I’m here to tell you the latter-day saints community young ladies. They may have sex with you but then they’re going to you know report to their bishops and say that it may not in fact, be consensual members of the team laughed and hollered in response to Morris’s comments morris who is no longer the utah state university police chief he has since um, stepped down. It’s interesting that the the um the case that’s being made about a couple parts of this is 1 is certainly that he said that and. And that’s horrible and reprehensible and people very quickly came out and said that um, but in some way and or fashion the um, the football coach complicit in it in that he didn’t say oh hey, hang on. Don’t be telling these people this.

32:43.26
Geoff
Oh yeah.

32:49.62
Richie T
But that they’ve opened a separate investigation into the coach of the utah state university football team and and the thing that’s interesting and why people are saying that they did that is utah state played a bowl game on Saturday and if they hadn’t had said. We’re doing a separate investigation into the football coach. He probably would have had to not be the coach for that bowl game. So sports builds character. Yeah.

33:07.95
Geoff
Oh heaven. Heaven Forbid heaven forbid. We have to do the right thing and it’s I mean they have they have recording of the Coach Blake Anderson saying it has never been more glamorized to be a victim of sexual assault I mean like they have audio of him saying I’m saying it still merits due diligence hundred percent. But.

33:20.12
Richie T
Yeah.

33:27.76
Geoff
I Say guess what if I mean unless this is a terrible hit job like was this all put out there by the opposing team with the hope of getting the coach. Yeah I’m sure that’s what this is all about this is like this is hardcore oppositional research that’s between collegiate football. Um, he’s apologized Coach Anderson but.

33:31.99
Richie T
Um, yeah, Oregon state was like let’s get them guys.

33:47.47
Geoff
I mean come on if the if the sheriff fest gotten in trouble I think the coach should also be getting in trouble.

33:52.35
Richie T
Well well and it’s a lot of trouble up at utah state because ah you dial the clock back like a year from right now and there was the the story um up there with the with the football team where ah they were going to hire. Ah, somebody I can’t I can’t remember maybe it was the head coach or maybe it was 1 of the assistant coaches or whatever and um and that coach was not a member of the church and someone said something to the effect of like oh no, we we can’t have a member of the church or he wasn’t a member of the church and we need a member of the church.

34:23.83
Geoff
Ah, yeah, yeah.

34:27.80
Richie T
It just seems like someone needs to get that football team kind of in order and be like okay guys. What are we doing here.

34:31.42
Geoff
It also speaks to sort of the dual standards we sometimes have with athletics at universities right? like oh well, you know I mean the the football players are just going to do what they do and we just have to accommodate that and not I mean I’m sure you see this even to be why you where.

34:35.69
Richie T
Sure.

34:44.00
Richie T
Um, sure.

34:50.71
Geoff
Oh yeah, all the football players. You know they signed they’ve signed the honor code that’s not to say any of us are perfect by any stretch of the imagination. But there’s ah, there’s a culture of looking the other way when it comes to the malfeasance of athletes in college because they mean big money. They mean a lot of good things for a university and why would you want to.

34:52.36
Richie T
Um, no.

35:10.66
Geoff
Turn off that pipe you know.

35:11.99
Richie T
It’s worth bringing up briefly and I know this wasn’t in our list of stuff but it resurfaced again about byyu and the biyu police department. Um there there was another article that came out and I think was from the Salt lake tribune talking about how.

35:17.96
Geoff
And I said oh yeah I saw that? yeah.

35:26.28
Richie T
Um, the b way you police department. Um, they worked in collaboration with the honor code office at Brigham young university. Yeah yeah.

35:33.60
Geoff
Ah, collusion is the word you want to use here. This is you can use collusion finally in its appropriate context. So.

35:41.71
Richie T
Said hey you know what here this happened off campus with these people. You should know about this honor code office Now this is not something that has happened recently. This is this is something that just has sort of surfaced like recently. But this was happening 5 or 6 years ago and. And the police department has been chastened but the University itself has not for its collaboration with the police department. So yeah.

36:01.70
Geoff
Which is like and and if you remember B’s police department was at the risk of being decertified and I saw a followup story as well. It’s interesting because it said the state was Trump was trying really hard to Dis cause it to disband be police force which in the end they chose not to do I mean they’re the ones in the in the position to do it. So.

36:14.76
Richie T
Right.

36:19.40
Geoff
It was and an interesting bit of reporting because it’s like the state was saying we really wanted to just disband their police force and make provo pd over the school but they still didn’t fault. They’re the ones who held the cards to do so and this is a good example of like I see seeing this to me like I love byu, but it tells me. Maybe it would it be the worst thing if it was just the Municipal police department from provot just also handled stuff on campus just I don’t you know and different universities. This is not uncommon a lot of universities have their own police forces. But I imagine but it just it just looks worse and worse when it seems like b y use is like this an appendage of the honor code office.

36:43.95
Richie T
Sure.

36:53.60
Richie T
Yep.

36:53.66
Geoff
Ah, nice excuse to sort of do our own thing autonomously with less accountability and you know all that kind of stuff and it’s ah.

36:57.20
Richie T
And and this is 1 of those situations where you can’t dismiss it by saying well if they don’t like the way that it is they should go to a different school. It’s just not the way that that should occur right? That’s just not ah that’s just not the practice. It’s not a legal practice. It’s not a moral ethical way to be able to do it. Worth noting too as we sort of put the button on both police um, policing and football teams remember that team that you had to look up that by you played in the bowl that they lost to over the weekend. It’s worth making the mention they that be why you lost to u a b. Over the weekend when they announced that they were going to be playing in the independence bowl and everyone went who is that team. We deserve better. We should be playing on New Year’s day. Well we lost 2 of them over the weekend so way to go.

37:41.72
Geoff
All I’m glad you brought that up because I don’t even know that they played that’s great that they played good for them. Who’s the ah, who’s the other. What is you ib University of Albuquerque. Yeah.

37:46.63
Richie T
Yep, lost in their bowl game. Youab is it’s it’s an Alabama team that isn’t alabama.

37:55.79
Geoff
Oh my goodness all right moving on here. Random think from the church news. Um, this mostly me questioning why they put it up so updated for on the sixteenth of december twenty twenty 1 which countries have the largest percentages of their populations as latter-day saints. This is always a fun thing that they update. You know it’s fun to see who are which countries are densely lds. The hilarious thing is the way they’ve cropped the map or like europe isn’t even in the map at all because it’s in europe and the middle east make no appearance whatso.

38:24.62
Richie T
Oh you’re right I didn’t even notice that.

38:28.59
Geoff
Um, and not Africa either and I’m curious if that’ll change over time because every single country on this list is um basically the United states then latin america and then micronesia polynesia melanesia just a bunch of pacific islands and that’s basically the entire thing truly not even the philippines makes the list because the philippines has tons of members. But the philippines also has tons of people so this is ah this is a per capita situation. So tongga continues to top the list tongga is sixty 3 point five percent latter-day saint and of course we don’t know what activity rates are or anything like that. This is just what’s on the books Samoa is forty 2 point five percent american samoa is 29 point 8 which is amazing to me that’s taken us that long to get american samoa its own temple. They just broke ground on the temple in american samoa and it’s been number 3 on latter-day saints per capita for all this time kiru yeah yeah.

39:14.20
Richie T
So I know you’re nerdy about this. So let me ask you this as just someone who does not know I know there’s samoa and american samoa is it like North and south korea like they touch each other and they’re just sort of quint.

39:24.59
Geoff
Yeah, they’re right next. They’re right next to 1 another. There’s you know there’s ocean between them. But but it’s all part of the greater samoan islands. It’s just yeah, it’s just it’s essentially a a nation split between 2 states we have Samoa which is like the independent country kingdom of samoa and then american samoa is a territory of the United states.

39:30.61
Richie T
Okay.

39:39.81
Richie T
So they are separate islands though. Okay, okay.

39:44.70
Geoff
Yeah, separate couple of islands per yeah yeah yeah yeah I believe it was is the original samo was called western samoa originally I’m getting my geography mixed up I think so I think american samo is east of it and then yeah anyway, so a lot of those you know Kiddobuts marshall islands french polynesia and new way is funny. It’s like the least populated country in the world. But it’s still 8 point 7 percent latter-day saint it’s a country with like like 200 people or something like that. It’s crazy so a ton of that it’s all pacific island nations until you get to chile which is finally 3 point 2 percent. Um good on uruguay by the way. Uruguay’s 3 point 1 percent latter-day saint but they still have 1 temple that’s something to keep an eye on.

40:06.39
Richie T
Awesome.

40:22.81
Geoff
Chile has like 4 in the works now. So the list goes on the the United states is number seventeen costa rica is up there number 34 this is all well and good It’s fun to see this information. You know I look forward to when they update this I think you’re just kind of kind of see this group of countries sort of jockeying for position I don’t think it might be maybe at some point we might get like Ghana or Nigeria has a lot of members but Nigeria also has like 2 hundred million people. So that’s hard so it might depend a bit and take some time the curious thing about this though.

40:45.74
Richie T
Jesus Now you I was just gonna say you glossed right? over the big you know the non headline headline of this thing. Yeah, thank you, Thank you that.

40:52.95
Geoff
Ah, sorry Richard you go ahead, go ahead. No I’m I’m getting there. This is what we call burying the lead and um.

41:02.70
Richie T
That works for a well in media. But.

41:06.60
Geoff
But so this all well and interesting. But the thing is they point out they’re using twenty nineteen statistics which they did last year when they published this same thing. So ah, basically this is not new information as far as we know I mean I Haven I haven’t way backed machine to this yeah url to see if it if anything’s changed. But that’s that’s still actually a fresh yeah url. There’s the date. So. it’ twenty nineteen statistics this goes back to the whole thing about the church refusing to release 2020 statistics broken down by country or state they say because the data is corrupted. This is the data is inaccurate because many kids were born or blessed or this and that which i’ve.

41:28.74
Richie T
Who.

41:42.78
Geoff
I have I think some data could be messed up sure sacraming attendance data would make no sense in 2020 especially as a measure of like funding for your award budget like it’s been. It’s up like I get that. But if you’re talking membership numbers like we know if people got baptized even during the pandemic full stop.

41:56.73
Richie T
Sure sure.

42:00.71
Geoff
If kids were born. Many of them were just blessed at home or some over zoom or whatever I did that last year we blessed our kid at home. You still make generate a record of it like unless the ward is just failing to do its administrative work. There’s no reason why that data should also be a problem. And if you’re talking about Church membership growth. It’s literally just convert baptisms and children of record baptisms which still happened and then baby blessings aren’t even like on the records necessary I mean your kids in the records. But they’re not counted as church membership anyway until they’re baptized and so I struggle to see how you could not accurately.

42:26.63
Richie T
Man.

42:40.60
Geoff
Port what did happen in 2020 and how the data could be incorrect despite what they’ve said I just don’t yes, what’s upbridge.

42:45.63
Richie T
Knock Knock No, you got us then it’s not what’s up who’s there. That’s what you say who’s there say who’s there controlling the message so that headlines don’t read things that we don’t want them to.

42:57.24
Geoff
Who’s there.

43:00.85
Geoff
As you heard us say yes, we said this I don’t know if you heard our episode a few weeks ago which is the exact thing we said because even if it’s true if the headline reads the church membership actually declined in the us because of deaths exceeding convert baptisms and childhood record baptisms that Year. Even if that’s.

43:17.52
Richie T
Um, right? and you’re and you’re never going to see us put something like that out and because too too many people are like and they were the fastest growing and that’s where they sort of hang their head of Testimony as far as that goes.

43:17.60
Geoff
Perfectly validated by the pandemic exactly the headline, the headline becomes mormons have negative growth in the United states and then that’s the headline. Yeah.

43:35.30
Richie T
But but also there’s not going to be any group that’s like you release your 2020 statistics we need them now right? you and I are talking about it. There’s a couple of people over there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, there’s a dozen of us.

43:43.44
Geoff
Jat janna reese is talking about it. Janna reese is mad she needs it I mean there are dozens of us dozens we’re like never nudes. Um, yeah I agree I just just for the sake of like fidelity of but it just bugs me I totally get the pr reasons why you don’t do it but I’m still like guys like. Cares if it’s a blip. It’s a blip but like let it all I want to know I need to know this It’s kind of like yes I know there’s the pr matters so much even for a global church. You think it’s all about faith people. My washington dc temple has been done being renovated for a year and a half

44:03.67
Richie T
The damage from the blip is greater than the worth of putting it out.

44:19.93
Richie T
Yep.

44:20.59
Geoff
But we haven’t rededicated it yet because the Pr is too valuable for a temple dedication of that magnitude and an open house than just dedicating it and letting us get to back to work with it like when you think about that like the saints have here have continued to have to drive to Philadelphia or Raleigh to go to the temple and they’ll have had to do so for like 20 extra months. Because the Pr is too important in this case and that’s sometimes how it is.

44:41.26
Richie T
Well, but the other side of that they would say is that there hasn’t been as many opportunities because up until just last week ah some temples within the church were constantly. You know at some level of being closed. It wasn’t until midweek last week where

44:55.48
Geoff
Every temple yeah not a ton but I mean considering philly stayed open like this whole time since they did it I I get that. But I think that would that would just be kind of a you’d be hiding behind that 1 I think but it’s fine I get it like ers you know, like okay, fine.

44:56.75
Richie T
All temples were opened at least in some fashion. So it’s not like they’ve missed out a ton on on the surface.

45:14.78
Geoff
The the public relations are more important than the actual thing we’re doing Okay, that’s okay, that’s part of it. That’s okay.

45:17.65
Richie T
Well and in yeah and and with Washington D C where it’s such an international sort of crossroads for you know world leaders and things like that to be able to come and be able to experience a temple of course of course sorry sorry G off.

45:29.15
Geoff
Yeah, of course of course, of course. Yeah. Oh The bearded nationalist has not had his day Very sad.

45:36.30
Richie T
Ah, real a real quick thing about tongga. They just you know for for being as many members of the church as densely populated. Ah they finally got their first. Ah y s a ward in Tonga they met for the first time just 2 weeks ago. Ah Henry la who.

45:51.24
Geoff
Well don’t try it to sit.

45:55.27
Richie T
O, let me just say his name is Henry bishop henry. He’s been called to serve as the bishop of the ward loving it loves the fact that there is finally a ward there says quote it’s such a beautiful and historic thing to be a part of and I can’t wait to enjoy this word together. With my fellow ysas so way to go tonga with your first ysa ward.

46:13.67
Geoff
Good on yeah and it’s funny. What I mean it was only what less than 2 years ago they did the first ysa ward in asia and singapore we had some disagreement because there was 1 that was kind of kind of not there in the Philippines and they organized the first young single ward in latin america in mexico city only this year and that 1 is 1 that really surprises me.

46:23.21
Richie T
Smooth.

46:33.22
Geoff
Would have thought latin america would have singles words by now. but’ there’s I’ve actually got a list here if you’re curious about this I think the church maintains this too. But yeah, yeah, the philippines toga kiibbaz has 1 singapore botswana has a ysa ward new zealand botswana rocks man.

46:46.20
Richie T
Oh good I’ve heard the events in the botswa A y s a word are real great. No.

46:53.98
Geoff
Don’t mess with gabarone dude they know what’s up bos 1 botswaana has a better credit rating than most european countries botsjuana is a miracle country. It’s a beautiful place. Minus the h I vs they have to deal with but other than that it’s hard like that’s a hard thing in the region like when you when you’ve got thirty percent of your countries. It still deals with hyv that sucks.

46:57.39
Richie T
M.

47:05.21
Richie T
Oof.

47:09.30
Richie T
Oh Wow I didn’t realize that was a real downer stat to bring into that conversation. Ok.

47:12.60
Geoff
That that sucks I’m probably getting this stat a little bit wrong, but you know that’s ah thank you sorry twenty four point eight percent sorry close enough all right I’m gonna bounce around here as you want to know about 6 places where joseph smith spent christmas because.

47:27.32
Richie T
Yes.

47:30.76
Geoff
This is what the church news wants you to know 6 places where he spent christmas you know any year could go by and he might have and it was Christmas time and he spent it somewhere spoiler alerts not utah yeah, um, the new okay whitney store in Ktland ohio the home of joseph smith senior in Kurtland ohio.

47:34.20
Richie T
Ah, yeah, yeah, no, he never made it sure.

47:49.21
Geoff
He spent christmas and liberty jail that’s actually a fair 1 to point out we might gloss over that or not think about the dates but he but he was ah he was there. He was in hirem and Sarah kimball’s home in navi illinois the Navi house or the mansion house in Navi illinois and those are the only those are the 6 places where he spent Christmas.

47:50.66
Richie T
Okay.

48:05.79
Richie T
Yeah, he didn’t spend it anywhere else. Only those 6

48:08.10
Geoff
that’s ah that’s it oh this are that and there’s also the smith family home of course. But that that’s ah that that’s this is an article in the church news and we we want the clicks. So.

48:18.42
Richie T
And it’s important that we know it you know I had never been to the to the birthplace of the prophet until just earlier this year a couple months ago I went to the birthplace. It’s actually pretty cool. We went there in the fall time. So absolutely gorgeous to have your northeast fall.

48:27.30
Geoff
So how how was that up there and sharon.

48:37.45
Richie T
Ah, you know about that but all of us western folks. It’s brown nine months out of the year

48:38.68
Geoff
But but I’ve I was I’ve still never done New England Fall which is a whole other whole other level of fall. So I would love to do that too. That’d be cool.

48:45.74
Richie T
But um I mean it’s it’s been a monument for a good amount of years I thought it was 1 of the ones they sort of came around with with the 80 s and and it wasn’t it was 1 that had been around much longer than that. So. There’s like you know horse and Buggy systems of how they got the monolith there on the top of the hill and you can. Learn about um brother wood who is a fascinating character within church history who bought that particular piece of property and donated it to the church and he has this weird place in North salt lake where he’s got like the the plaster cast of the original um like Temple. Ah. Oxen in the Salt lake temple like he’s he’s a collector of odd things his family and it’s been passed down. It looks like a junkyard and he’s got ah all sorts of crazy things. The wood family as far as that goes. But anyway I digress. Ah it was cool. It was fun. It was fun to be able to go to that. My wife who’s not a member of the church has said.

49:32.91
Geoff
That’s cool. Ah.

49:43.52
Richie T
As we went there we went So we’re here because this is where he was born. She sort of misses the nostalgia and or the the spiritual elements of those things like we’ve been to several temples and she gets it as far as that goes, but she’s like so we’re going to where he was born. Okay.

49:53.70
Geoff
ah ah well it’s yeah I guess ah I guess from an outside perspective. It could be curious but I think we also you know we have famous birthplaces for all kinds of faith like you can go to abraham lincoln’s birthplace in Kentucky and that’s a.

50:06.26
Richie T
Sure sure.

50:10.35
Geoff
Big deal I’ve been to ulysses s grant’s birthplace in Ohio it’s right grant this random well is this random little pullover in Southern ohio and you’re like yes this is this here. We are this is happening week and richard nixon was born.

50:11.87
Richie T
Oh really.

50:23.21
Geoff
Just a few miles from the house I grew up and that’s where his presidential library is today his it’s his birthplace his presidential museum and his burial place. He really just kind of he just put it all on 1 spot just the entire richard nixon experience is localized.

50:26.15
Richie T
Ha ha.

50:31.49
Richie T
It didn’t get ah opening fall twenty twenty 3 the richard nixon experience I’d go to that.

50:39.45
Geoff
Oh that being I would I why? why would you want I love I’m so happy that my the like the 1 president my homeland produced we got fricking richard nixon. That’s who we gave to the world. You’re welcome everybody if you richard.

50:48.33
Richie T
Um, yeah, je je well I I’m I feel like there is a um, there is a research piece being ah culminated cold together right now by the tribune. To find out the other places joseph smith spent christmas I feel like that’s an article come out later this week um in in sort of a lighter thing since we’ve been fairly heavy so far I I found a lot of interest in this from a Christmas story to the Santa claus 3 8 movies that have included the tabernacle choir and so to me I hear that headline and I think ok these are all going to be Christmas movies that the music from the tabernacle choir has been featured oh tis not so ah yeah, ah evan almighty of of you know the.

51:34.31
Geoff
The very first 1

51:41.20
Richie T
Not great sequel of Bruce almighty about building noah’s ark um, this land is your land I’ll mention these quick deck the halls is in the movie joy to the world. This.

51:49.56
Geoff
How about this 1 though the the movie nixon the very rated r biopic of richard nixon I’m sorry of course then again, you’re looking at the list from lds living correct evan almighty.

51:55.48
Richie T
Um, oh you scan down too much now wait I don’t even see that on my list correct then I saw deck the houses is enjoy to the world. The santa claus 3 again a sequel to a Christmas movie.

52:06.87
Geoff
Ah, continue can I will not interrupt you I’m sorry.

52:13.66
Richie T
That didn’t need to happen the first 1 I’ll allow it. But you don’t really need it. That’s the Hallelujah chorus madagascar has born free. The stepford wives and the star spangled banner. Ah shannon doah. Oh there, you go in nixon. Okay.

52:30.20
Geoff
But look at this no well look. They’ve got a Christmas story has silent night and then number 8 total deep cut here u hf the weird al yank can pick the weird al yankivic movie I don’t remember I haven’t seen that in so long.

52:32.12
Richie T
I Like that song That’s a great version of that song too. If you haven’t ever heard.

52:41.72
Richie T
Where is where is the battle hymn of the Republic in Uhf let’s say figit man who oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was before. Ah.

52:50.50
Geoff
It’s got Michael richards before he was kramer it is a it is a gem.

52:57.66
Richie T
Is before he said all the things that made everyone not like him kramer. Yeah yeah.

53:01.45
Geoff
And well yeah, yeah, yeah, um, this list is perfectly fun I Wonder about this like in terms of licensing though like the church is like yeah, it’s Cool. You can use our recording for the stepford wives like the. Is that part of our our ministry I mean the tabernac choir is officially a mission. You know Mike levits making sure this is he going to license this stuff to the next great R Rated biopic of our day.

53:24.86
Richie T
You know it works hey we’re going to give you a lot of money and we want to use your song. Okay, we will take your lot of money. Thank you? Yes, Yes, yes.

53:29.52
Geoff
But but. And then then do we say it’s just Wonderful. We’re getting the we’re getting our product out there and that’s the deal. But what about you know, guilt by association right? What if you’re you’re watching you’re watching nixon.

53:44.48
Richie T
Nope It doesn’t apply.

53:48.39
Geoff
And he’s swearing up a storm and then you hear the tabernacle choir singing and you’re like this is a weird incongruence I don’t know how I feel I’m feeling the spirit and I’m feeling Anthony Hopkins Rage at the same time and I don’t know what to do with these feelings I don’t know what to do.

53:57.12
Richie T
I feel I feel like if within the thing they would have said pause as we play a song from the church of Jesus christ of latter day saints like that I feel like is to the point that you’re talking about? Yeah but no.

54:03.43
Geoff
Um, oh yeah I mean it’s Fri’s probably I Love it’s in the credits. At some point you know you’ve watched this whole movie and little me I know it’s not a as none of this is a big deal I Just think it’s It’s a curiosity of.

54:16.74
Richie T
And they get paid money for why? Not I I allow a lot of things when people are saying you know what we can do good things with that money.

54:22.70
Geoff
You need to have standards man all right? Um, we talked about a few weeks ago that the the temple president of the Seoul south korea temple unexpectedly passed away and did they actually say it was covid.

54:27.29
Richie T
Nope Will not do that.

54:35.81
Richie T
It was covered right? Oh maybe not maybe I’m thinking of something else.

54:41.00
Geoff
I don’t remember if they said it with Covid but he passed away and um, they don’t really I don’t think they even mentioned this in the article that this is the reason why this is actually a story. This is 1 of these funny things when they bother to make a story of a new temple president being called but don’t explain the context of why this is randomly happening at this point in time. Um, so they’ve called a new a new temple president for the seul Korea after the previous 1 unfortunately passed away so ohhi kun of the seul korea westak is now the president of that he’s oh sorry they do have mention though. So he’s succeeding president kim chewa who died in November so there we go. They didn’t make a mention of that. My bad retract. So.

55:14.60
Richie T
In it in a matter of quick news kind of going along with that the groundbreaking ah for the new temple in West Africa The Freetown Sierra Leone temple.

55:17.55
Geoff
There you go. He’s been called.

55:28.96
Richie T
2 point nine acre site looking at the rendering of said temple no maroni. Um, yeah, what would you call that that’s sort of um.

55:34.74
Geoff
Shocker interesting steeple though in the cupulla. That’s that’s a different design though. That’s an interesting 1 Usually they it’s like they took a typical cupiela on the top and just kind of just kind of kept stretching just kind of kept going. It’s like if you had a design of book.

55:46.25
Richie T
Um, yeah, they heated up real hot and then they just.

55:52.29
Geoff
It’s like if you put a cupla in photoshop folks or anything and then dragged it to just kind of stretch out the image. That’s what you get So it’s it’s interesting in that case, um eighteen Thousand Square feet. So not not tiny. It’s okay size.

56:02.15
Richie T
Ah I like that there’s going to be housing presidency apartments and ordinance worker apartments adjacent. So it will be ah sort of a place that people can come and reside for a bit obviously as they get called on Missions there to to be able to function within that temple.

56:17.90
Geoff
Ah, my ah, it’s okay size. It’s so it’s not it doesn’t not make it a large temple but it’s it’s kind of the size of the second round of many temples like the newport beaches lubbock san antonios sacramento temples of the world like kind of that size. It’s about that. So ah.

56:18.96
Richie T
Eighteen Thousand Square feet. That’s fairly small. Yeah, as far as temples.

56:36.79
Geoff
Do um, this is my my bishop is from sierra leone so this has have been really. This has been really fun to track with him since they announced the temple and he’s been like well aware of all the details like I know exactly where it’s going to go. It’s Goingnna go at this compound right next to the us embassy and like oh yep, that’s where it’s going. He’s been a great source of information for this. So.

56:38.28
Richie T
Oh interesting.

56:51.49
Richie T
Um, it’s the eighteenth temple in Africa. Ah.

56:55.75
Geoff
That’s the amazing thing I was about to pull out think about that Richie before like two thousand gosh it was like twenty ten and we still just had 3 temples in Africa that that is just firing on all cylinders. That’s great.

57:02.90
Richie T
Yep.

57:08.10
Richie T
In the particular temple district for the sierra leone it’s 21000 saints so that’s a pretty big deal 70 congregations that will be served by that freetown temple.

57:18.90
Geoff
Also interesting that they’re actually saying what the district will be a lot the time they don’t make any mention of that until they might say how many saints are in the country but I’m I’m assuming this is just going to be 1 and the same where the district it said it does say Temple District. So Maybe in this case, they’re just clearly saying. The saints of Sierra Leone will be the Temples District unless the saints of Liberia also get assigned to it I’m not quite sure how it’ll be but they often don’t they often like we still don’t know Officially I don’t even think like what the orum Temple District is gonna be like they’re built. They’re building up. They haven’t announced what those lines are going to be but in this case, we.

57:42.31
Richie T
Now I. Right? right? right? right now I I want to hold us true to what I try and hold true true to we’re almost at an hour So I want to make sure that we get this stuff in because when you post something that’s longer than an hour.

57:57.57
Geoff
Um, yeah. Yeah.

58:04.10
Richie T
I audibly say at the gym as I’m listening to stuff things like come on Geoff what could you possibly have talked about on the non-news week that took you an hour and fifteen minutes. Yeah, he okay I do do that but not at the length of podcast.

58:09.58
Geoff
I was hoping I was hoping you just groan and it makes everyone look at you really weird. Go oh and everyone look. Yeah.

58:23.81
Richie T
Ah, what? what is this I didn’t read this story I’ll be honest with you. The new project for the British isles.

58:26.90
Geoff
Um, ah, basically it’s real quick. This came out of the u k newsroom and this is not to be confused with the saints volume 3 which is going to be about the British is but they’re doing their want when they want to basically comp compile the stories of the units. It’s a 2 wo-year project called the unit history project. Is an ambitious attempt to provide a brief history of all the congregations of the church in great britain also in the crown dependencies of like gurnsey jersey in the isle of man and they’re asking them to create summaries and send them to james perry at church of jesusch christt dot org. So if you are in the uk do that. If you’re interested in the u k and just want to make up stories and send them to james do that knock yourself out.

59:03.70
Richie T
Well so they they do that here like I was my word Historian for a hot minute and you have to do that as well who are the bishops who have served what has it been what area all that stuff so it just seems like what they’re expanding that out. We no guys were really serious. Do this all right.

59:17.44
Geoff
Yeah, it’s kind of cool. Um, um I’m game I’m game for.

59:22.57
Richie T
Ah, what I also wanted to ask you about this because it’s in Spanish I presume that’s why I can’t read it. It seems like you just wanted to cram in a story about your mission so please regale me with the tales.

59:26.38
Geoff
Oh you weak man I literally did do you want to know why because the city and mentioned here Tarragona was my longest mission area so this is this is Beyond just wanting to talk about Spain this is literally my old ward so that the head of this up so and this was not. Not like they have stuff for every reward. But anyways they did a ah religion night basically interroagona sp terragons about an hour south of Barcelona on the coast kind of cool basically that but’s cool here is the church actually partnered with according to what I’m reading here on the pra on the program I think they partnered with ah or is that. Partner with like Unicef or is it where to go I had it written somewhere here then and yes, the so so the us are unesco not unicef the unesco group the interreligious group of unesco and the city hall of Tarragona helped organize a religion night where different religions came to the chapel and got to show off what they were doing and talk about. Was going on and stuff like that. They’ve apparently got sister Missionaries in Tarragona now which is huge. We’ve died if probably and it’s great and I just think this is cool. They did this cool if they do this anywhere I think it’s it’s very fun for me to see that they did this in my old ward and they have a new building that they did not have when I was there.

01:00:24.78
Richie T
They had to get in and clean up what you did.

01:00:39.44
Geoff
Also crack up because the program for it was all on kaalan not going to board the listeners with my usual stuff here. But if you look at the image of the program this goes back to like the church making decisions on language and culture and stuff like that because this program is all it says here. It does not say in Spanish it says let leslie the Jesus crystal son stills zaio’s di when com viilla the lanithe le. Reilla porta obbertos visita guedala and gro petitz she raa de presentaolto’s different programmers guerrelis sal la glaia like very catalan but everything else is in Spanish like all like the family search banner the book of mormons in spanish the Missionaries have spanish tags.

01:01:04.70
Richie T
The.

01:01:13.88
Geoff
This goes back to my mission how it boggled my mind. We had no katalan language program for the mission because it’s like a big thing there and when you go to church and the rule is church has to be in Spanish but prayers and testimonies can be in whatever language you want. And all the majority kaalan members seize on that and just get up to the pulpit and just Blabber and katalan during testimony meetings. It’s the only chance they can. It might be an opportunity to ask yourself should we be thinking about whether we’re meeting the cultural needs of this part of the church.

01:01:41.20
Richie T
Sure.

01:01:41.59
Geoff
You understand the other side of it. The church has many members from elsewhere in Spain living all around the country of course lots of Latin american immigrants who don’t speak kaalan but at the same time you could say well they pre they prefer a kaalanir. We should just assume they all learn kataan I don’t know who knows but it’s good.

01:01:51.72
Richie T
It it is it similar to like portagues in Spanish like it’s sort of the same like you can pick out a lot of words but you’re not really getting the whole g. Okay, okay.

01:01:55.32
Geoff
Um, yeah yeah I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much it’s like that you can you can get there? Yeah so but it’s cool. They’re doing this either way I’d love all that stuff aside I think ecumenism like this is awesome and we should we should embrace it. You should do a religion night in your. Ward like get the local people together and talk about that especially because President oakes spoke about the importance of church before speaking about the importance of our church. Let’s just talk about the importance of churches in general do something.

01:02:27.60
Richie T
There’s a great ah article. That’s based on a book called lds christians and sikhs. Um, this is ah the result of an inspiration that the author whose name is cashshmir litter had um to invite siks to come to christ. Um, and it’s just sort of a fascinating fascinating article about this 1 particular gentleman cashmere who ah, how he found the church and and what his um sort of intersection with the the church has been to his conversion how his life has been um. Having the opportunity to pray about Joseph smith in the book of Mormon and sort of sets that up as ah as an opportunity to share with other sikhs about how how he found his faith within the Lds church. Ah yeah, i.

01:03:03.95
Geoff
Yeah.

01:03:14.56
Geoff
Yeah I think this is cool, very cool. This also interesting his name is Kashmirre leader because if you flip it around the the there’s also the leader River in Cashshmir India I don’t know know but be litter Iss probably litter I don’t know lidar but it just makes me it just his name is Kashmirre litter.

01:03:24.12
Richie T
Oh you say it leader. Okay, Okay, Yeah. So so.

01:03:34.44
Geoff
But in kashmir india or contested India there is the litter river as well. So I don’t.

01:03:37.23
Richie T
So so where I feel like they there was a miss on the title of this book I think that it should have been seek the lord and that’s that was the dad joke earlier referenced. Ah.

01:03:49.36
Geoff
Ah, ah, ah, everyone stayed to get that. Ah.

01:03:57.21
Richie T
I I just feel you know I feel like there was a there’s the opportunity to to make that reference Anyway, it is a fascinating read I’d like to actually pick up the book and find out more about X I I know very little if not nothing about sikhs and what they believe.

01:04:04.10
Geoff
All right.

01:04:14.20
Geoff
Seekism go look up their holy city on you. It’s gorgeous stuff tritra you’ll enjoy that all right? We’re gonna go out on a high note today real quick remember a few weeks ago. We talked about this idaho sheriff who allegedly drew his weapon upon a youth group from our church. It was young women who were just trying to like.

01:04:28.40
Richie T
Um, yeah.

01:04:31.48
Geoff
They were. They were just like spreading cheer at his doorstep and he’s like what the f are you doing and starts like threatening all um, that’s the the shorter version of it that’s leaving out a lot of details anyway, he’s ah he’s now facing felony charges for allegedly threatening a group with a gun in November felony aggravated assault and aggravated battery.

01:04:41.10
Richie T
Sure. Um, Well I think it. I I think it’s worth noting because all of the details I don’t think had come out like this. So Let’s take the dive for people who don’t maybe necessarily know it The young women group doing thankful Turkeys which if you don’t know it’s yeah yet.

01:04:50.85
Geoff
And misdemeanor exhibition of a gun.

01:05:04.97
Geoff
Are gonna get to the ring doorbell footage because that part’s great I haven’t seen it but they’ve got the audio from it where in yeah.

01:05:09.80
Richie T
Do do you have it I haven’t been able to see it. Yeah, so so they’re dropping off thankful Turkeys right? I think I think it literally is just like you think that it is you put your hand on a paper and you trace it. It looks like a turkey and then in the middle of it. It says we’re thankful for you.

01:05:22.69
Geoff
The.

01:05:27.49
Richie T
Now this sheriff I think he what he’s sort of a um, how do we? We don’t call them inactive members of the church but I mean but he’s so he’s so he’s on the records of the church. That’s why the young women are there leaving this thankful turkey.

01:05:31.33
Geoff
We call them? No they he’s a jack mormon that’s his name. He’s a Jack lettertered saint.

01:05:42.27
Geoff
Yes, yes, yes.

01:05:46.80
Richie T
He comes out and apparently like to your point in the ring doorbell footage roland is shown looking at the turkey turkey and could be heard saying. Thank you and that’s freaking b s I love that he said that’s fricking b s because that’s a direct quote from the ring footage. Roland said that he saw a vehicle driving down the road. He stopped that vehicle the car did not look familiar to him and he said I reach in and pull the driver out by the hair I say who the f are you and I do have a gun in my hand. But I still have the trigger on ah I still have my finger on the slide so he doesn’t have the finger on the trigger but he has it on the side of the gun as he points it towards the woman’s head just a few inches away from her forehead.

01:06:25.57
Geoff
Is ready.

01:06:35.86
Richie T
The woman later identified herself as a neighbor family friend for over 3 decades and he says I didn’t recognize her I don’t know I didn’t know who she was.

01:06:43.53
Geoff
The interesting thing here is he said he said he had a single alcoholic drink that night but he was clearheaded which if yeah if you just had 1 drink. He’s probably mostly okay but he said he and his wife had received many threats in recent months so it caused them to be concerned about people at their home. He said quote I’ve had drunk sorry.

01:06:56.30
Richie T
Sure.

01:07:02.80
Geoff
I’ve had drunk Indians drive down my cul-de-sac I’ve had drunk Indians come to my door I live just off the reservation. We have a lot of reservation people around us that are not good people who boy? Um, yeah I.

01:07:11.65
Richie T
Yeah, it’s it’s all sorts of terrible. The girls described that he was upset dropping the f bombs and you know that that’s how the girls described it too. He was dropping f bombs multiple times several of them call recall rolling pointing the gun at the leader’s head.

01:07:26.36
Geoff
You told us to get the F get the f out of here This was in blackfoot right? is how this actually happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well he’s been. He’s he’s been charged.

01:07:31.31
Richie T
Yeah, it’s just I just yeah, the parent I I like this the parent expressed disappointment in statements given to media from local church of Jesus christ latter day saint communication officials who said that this situation. Was most likely a misunderstanding but.

01:07:54.20
Geoff
That’s good I Actually really appreciate that because I think sometimes we’re so afraid to like say anything that might make the church look negative right? and they’re I’m glad these parents are saying like dude guys This is not a misunderstanding like this guy came out and pulled a gun on us and swore at us and.

01:08:05.99
Richie T
Yep yep Yep yep.

01:08:10.18
Geoff
And and sure he might have misunderstood the context of the situation but that doesn’t justify his behavior. You know that’s yeah so good on them for doing that. It’s too much. Well, this has been a delight. What a delight make your Monday a delight as the as the brother in like to say well that’s the same.

01:08:12.67
Richie T
No too much. It’s too much.

01:08:23.56
Richie T
I Hope I hope that you have a merry Christmas Ah we were supposed to go out of town but the weather’s terrible. So Nope yeah.

01:08:28.40
Geoff
You too rich you guys doing anything big. Okay. Fun. So just hanging out. Hu. Okay, good deal. We were supposed to yeah we yeah, we’re gonna be my sister got here though. We’re gonna have fun. It’s gonna be great. Well twinsters pi roak meta up salon fi guy Sigh oh Makeup. Um.

01:08:40.10
Richie T
Yeah, Quarant quarantine down quarantine down omaron. That’s pretty impressive.

01:08:51.24
Geoff
Been in my head for years. Mrs lane. She taught me so much. Ah, folks, please join us at this week at mormons dot com subscribe to the show if you haven’t done so already obviously and that would be super cool of you and we want to put the plug in for patreon hop give christmas cheer is 3 dollars of your money every month to help support this show that would be awesome patreon dot com slash This Week in Mormons. Also go get some love to the cultural hall over at the culturalha dot com or wherever you get podcasts. You can hear what Ritchie’s up to making things happen there and he too has patrons on on patreon so you can you can do it there too. So I’d like to thank Ritchie for being here. Good to see you richie.

01:09:17.67
Richie T
Um, yeah, you can find us. Yeah, your your voice woke up I’m proud of you Good job. It was the singing. It was the seeking of the singing of the ah greek the Greek letters I think that did it.

01:09:26.20
Geoff
Thank you very much. Ah I I had to warm up just like I did with ah I was the mc at the ward christmas party this past week so that was fun too. You would do a better job than I would I’m sure but it it was oh but it was okay.

01:09:40.76
Richie T
Stop stop it.

01:09:44.71
Geoff
I just I stand up there with my dry humor because like wait what? like yeah this is awesome right? Yeah, pretty much it’s that so all right folks? Well we hope you have a wonderful wonderful Christmas we’ll talk to you on the flip side of that be safe out there if you’re traveling and everything like that and until then for Richie I’m Geoff this has been this week of mormons and we’ll talk to you later merry christmas.

01:09:46.43
Richie T
Is he joking. Ah.

 

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